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I have a silly confession to make

still_learningstill_learning Veteran
edited May 2010 in General Banter
Forgive me for I have sinned... kinda.

I've been obsessing over the yet to be release Verizon Wireless version of the Nexus One phone. I've been checking google's website multiple times a day (more than I'd like to admit), as well as a forum focus on that phone.

I've formed quite an attachment to the phone. I am aware of my attachment, but find it hard not to think about it. I know it's just going to cause problems for me if I keep thinking about it.

It's been rumored to be released on a few different days that have gone and passed. Those rumors add fuel to the fire of my obsession. I even look forward to hearing just rumors to give myself hope that it will be out soon. Sound pathetic, I know.

I was in a contract for 2 years and now it's finally over.

I was about to get the Motorola Droid also on the Verizon network, because I wanted and Android phone. I never liked the iphone. It seemed to restrictive. But before my contract ended I learned about the Google Nexus One phone. I liked the specs better than the Motorola Droid. I liked how the Nexus One is faster at 1ghz vs the Droid's 500Mhz. I've been wanting a fast phone for a while (so sick of slow phones that take so long just to go through a menu). And I liked how the Nexus One would able to get OS updates as soon as they come out. The Droid and others would be restricted by the carrier they are on and would have to wait. I liked the openness of the Nexus One. It just seems like the phone I've always wanted.

Anyway my attachment to this phone has taken away some peace from me, and I may not get it back until I have the phone in my hands.

If you've read this far, feel free to laugh. I think it's silly as hell of me.

Comments

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited April 2010
    ....You may not get it back until you have the 'phone in your hands, huh?


    Tell me...
    How long will this peace last? Until the next hip, state-of-the-art gadget comes out?

    Ok, I'm laughing now.
    But only 'cos' yu sd we cd.

    (Just a bit of txt spk 2 mk u feel @ home.....;) :D
  • fivebellsfivebells Veteran
    edited April 2010
    I got a Droid for roughly similar reasons. It's nice to have. I was going to program apps for it, and learned Clojure for this purpose, but have let that ambition slide for now.
  • patbbpatbb Veteran
    edited April 2010
    I use my phone to talk to my wife and friends... once in a while

    I never understood this craze about iphone, i-whatever thingy people use to listen to music or read websites in tiny little letters.

    I don't understand how people seem to love listening to music all the time either.
    You see kids walking around with wires coming off of their face, constantly playing around with these small electronic devices...

    I just don't get it, I like to listen to music from time to time, but you would have to pay me lots of money to use one of these devices.

    I guess it's good for me, i don't have to worry about developing attachment to these things.
  • fivebellsfivebells Veteran
    edited April 2010
    I know, I feel the same way about twitter and facebook. I just don't get those things.
  • edited April 2010
    what happened to books?
  • edited April 2010
    At one point I thought it would be a great idea to get a blackberry. I got one and locked not only my spiritual liberty, but financial liberty too. Canada has some of the highest phone rates in the world. Did I even need such a gadget?

    I don't get this whole iPad / iPhone / 'apps' thing either, and as a web designer it's what many of my comrades talk about.
    fivebells wrote:
    I know, I feel the same way about twitter and facebook. I just don't get those things.
    I do think Twitter is helpful if used correctly, but the reality is, it's almost always not. "Only speak if it improves on silence". I converse with some Buddhist / spiritual bloggers over twitter which is nice, but I find that the majority is simply publishing content that need not be said. There's little information control.
  • edited April 2010
    i've never quite felt the need to move from a cellphone to one of those newfangled gadgets that do all sorts of things (internet, music, games). My telephone can make telephone calls and also can send and receive text messages...that's quite enough for me. When I want the internet, I'll find a computer. When I want a game, I'll find a board/card/computer game and friend to play it with. When I want music, I'll find a CD/ipod/guitar/piano and do it that way.

    People love their iphones. On a few occasions, I have asked asked a passenger to get directions while I'm driving. Instead of pulling out a map and using brainpower, he/she spends 5+ minutes trying to get the iphone to tell us what way to go. And often, the iphone just simply gives bad directions.

    There seems to be a technological race to invent a gadget that has every possible useful application all included in one hand held device. It just seems unnecessary. But we are all told "you want this!" over and over again. No thanks.

    And those new things where you read books on a computer screen...? books (especiailly paper backs) are really not all that cumbersome. I especially love when they fit in my jacket pocket. And books don't break when I inevitably drop them.
  • MountainsMountains Veteran
    edited April 2010
    We've been seduced by technology for technology's sake. It's just more of Madison Avenue convincing us that if we just get this one more "thing" we'll be happy. But we're never happy for more than five minutes, no matter what "thing" we buy. Technology is wonderful (after all, it makes this forum possible), but I just don't get the ever-growing "need" (there's an over-used, misunderstood word if ever there was one) for more gadgets and more attention grabbers.

    Mtns
  • edited April 2010
    And those new things where you read books on a computer screen...? books (especiailly paper backs) are really not all that cumbersome. I especially love when they fit in my jacket pocket. And books don't break when I inevitably drop them.

    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tech/othermedia.html#iphone

    Imagine having the WHOLE Pali Canon on your iPhone! Can't carry that amount of books on your back now can you? Knee feeling sore? Just use your iphone app and see how truthful that knee really is! Why learn when you have all the information in the world at your fingertips!

    :lol:

    But in all seriousness, ATI does a great job of providing resources online / offline / mobile. I'm in Cuba right now and books are hard to come by, so as much as I dislike reading from a screen, it's nice to have when books aren't there.
  • MountainsMountains Veteran
    edited April 2010
    rbastien wrote: »
    I'm in Cuba right now

    And I'm insanely jealous. When are we ever going to lift this silly embargo?

    :)

    Mtns
  • still_learningstill_learning Veteran
    edited April 2010
    very interesting and thoughtful responses.

    I still do enjoy reading physical books. I like to buy cheap paperbacks so I can bring them anywhere and share them with friends when I'm done with one.

    I used to be so eager to buy any new tech, but ever since being with my current GF I haven't had the money to. That turned out to be a good thing, I've gotten used to not be so eager about buying the latest gadget, and I'm really okay with that now.

    So my obsession with the Nexus One for Verizon is somewhat rare for me.

    My attachment has now caused me some trouble. I overlooked a task at work because of it. I felt so bad.

    Of course everything is impermanent, my obsession is slowly wearing off recently. And I'm more patient about waiting for the phone.
  • edited April 2010
    Attachments... I have plenty of them...I can relate...

    I have also at times been attached to non-attachment...
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited May 2010
    Oh heck, why not just install chips in our babies when they're born so they're 100% connected at all times? For me, I don't want to be connected all the time. In fact, I only want to be connected when I want to be connected. I don't really need all the apps and txting and tiny little videos on my handheld, etc, etc. Take a walk in the woods, for goodness sake!

    Palzang
  • Quiet_witnessQuiet_witness Veteran
    edited May 2010
    In the near future psycho-analysts are going to come out with a new disorder: TCSAD (Techno-connectivity seperation anxiety disorder).
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited May 2010
    Also known as i-envy...

    Palzang
  • Quiet_witnessQuiet_witness Veteran
    edited May 2010
    lol
  • LincLinc Site owner Detroit Moderator
    edited May 2010
    I shouldn't tell you that Verizon and Sprint probably aren't going to carry it then?

    http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=5952

    :o
  • edited May 2010
    Mountains wrote: »
    And I'm insanely jealous. When are we ever going to lift this silly embargo?

    :)

    Mtns

    Haha thanks. Hopefully soon, I can't say it will be too long before a new Cuban revolution. It's interesting talking to the Cubans about it and seeing how they feel. Some think Fildel & Raoul will hand the power over to another person /party following their same ideologies, which might spark violence & revolt amongst the community, and others think it will be more democratic. I just hope the US and Cuba solve their problems - especially after meeting some Americans that make their way into Cuba to bring medical supplies, bikes, etc... simply to help out.
    In the near future psycho-analysts are going to come out with a new disorder: TCSAD (Techno-connectivity seperation anxiety disorder).

    I certainly wouldn't be surprised! Gives them another reason to make a new listing in the DSM...again :p
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited May 2010
    They could always follow the Mongolian example. Peaceful turnover of power to the people. Of course, then the capitalists and corrupt officials and Mormons descended them like flies on u-no-what...

    Palzang
  • edited May 2010
    Palzang wrote: »
    They could always follow the Mongolian example. Peaceful turnover of power to the people. Of course, then the capitalists and corrupt officials and Mormons descended them like flies on u-no-what...

    Palzang

    And that's exactly it! Capitalism and globalization has already trickled in. The youth are proud of imported converse / american eagle clothing and iPhones, and Coca Cola and Lucky strike are dominant in the cola and tobacco industries. There's such a heavy demand for an 'Americanization' here that it would be a brand new place within just months.

    It seems the cultural / historic growth of the country has been forgotten and is on a world scale comparing to the consumption in the western world. To the point that the idea of 'non-attachment' is abstract to many / most of them. I was talking about life with a Cuban friend and he concluded that my financial choices of working enough to live and donating the rest as a terrible idea and kept recommending I get a second job in the government to make more money. He seemed upset when I told him money didn't really mean much to me. I don't blame him for thinking that way with the high demand for the American dollar his culture / generation has here.

    A peaceful turnover would be wonderful. I'm just wondering - is there a way out of the high demand for consumption yet with a more democratic political system? I'm interested in seeing what comes out of this.
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited May 2010
    Not as long as hatred, greed, and ignorance sit on the triumvirate throne of most people's lives!

    Palzang
  • edited May 2010
    I don't know what to say.
  • nakazcidnakazcid Somewhere in Dixie, y'all Veteran
    edited May 2010
    Forgive me for I have sinned... kinda.

    I've been obsessing over the yet to be release Verizon Wireless version of the Nexus One phone. I've been checking google's website multiple times a day (more than I'd like to admit), as well as a forum focus on that phone.

    I've formed quite an attachment to the phone. I am aware of my attachment, but find it hard not to think about it. I know it's just going to cause problems for me if I keep thinking about it.
    I know exactly how you feel. I felt the same way when the iPhone 3G first came out. I'm better now, but that may just be because I'm broke at this point in my life.
    I never liked the iphone. It seemed to restrictive..
    That's why they were made to be jailbroken. I got too poor to pay AT&T for subpar service and got on T-mobile. It's still more than I'd like to pay, and I lost 3G, but my bill is half what it was.

    If you really want to go nuts, you could pick up an iPhone 2G and put android on it:

    http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html

    But, yes, lusting after the latest and greatest techno-gadget would seem to be an attachment. I suppose the best question would be to ask why you want this latest slick device. Because it's trendy and cool? Because it'll make you an alpha geek? That's why I wanted my iPhone. I rationalized my techno-lust by thinking about all the "useful" things I could do with it. It's got GPS! I can do email! I can surf the web at blazing speed! In truth, it has occasionally been useful and entertaining, but not nearly to the degree that I imagined.
  • edited May 2010
    Ack, happened to me today, and to my surprise I acted on it! I decided I needed a better camera for my honeymoon in Costa Rica this summer. My current one only has 3x zoom and no image stabilization, and I figured any wildlife I would want to photograph would come out blurry and small. I'm a point-and-clicker, and I don't want to carry around a huge pack of lenses and stuff that I have no idea how to use, so I got the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS5. Actually bought it.... today! What is wrong with me? I usually at least sleep on it!
    nakazcid wrote: »
    I rationalized my techno-lust by thinking about all the "useful" things I could do with it. It's got GPS! I can do email! I can surf the web at blazing speed! In truth, it has occasionally been useful and entertaining, but not nearly to the degree that I imagined.

    And here is where all three of us fall off the deep end. If it's *useful*, it's clearly not simply attachment, right? I neeeeeeeeeeeeed it!!!! *sigh*

    So now the question is... when are the proper conditions to purchase without attachment? If I don't need it (and I don't really NEED it) then I won't buy it. But then I might be disappointed in my photos. So the point is then to get to a place where I am not disappointed in my photos where my sloth is a blurry dot? Sorry, I'm new at this!
  • StaticToyboxStaticToybox Veteran
    edited May 2010
    People and their need to have things....

    My mother has become like that. She's on her third cell phone in as many years. She can't even reason why she feels this compulsion to replace it so often, she just does. And she doesn't even use the features that the item is marketed on, she just likes the idea that it has them. She wanted a Nintendo Wii and my sister bought her one for Christmas. The other day I asked her how she liked it and she told me that she hasn't really used it. :nonono:

    I've had the same cell phone for 5 years now. It doesn't play MP3s. It doesn't take pictures. It can't surf the internet and I can't watch video on it. But it sends and receives phone calls, which is all I need from it.
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited May 2010
    I'm with you on that one, Takeahnase. I just want my cell phone to be a cell phone, not a camera or an mp3 player or a video player or... Though I do text once in a while. I've got a perfectly good camera that takes great pictures that are infinitely better than anything a cell phone camera could do, so why on earth would I want a cell phone with a camera in it? It's sort of like the refrigerators they have with internet. No, I'm not kidding! Guess you can link to all the "cool" sites!

    Palzang
  • edited May 2010
    When a refrigerator can automatically scan its own contents, compile a shopping list, and e-mail it to my iPod... that's when I'll consider a fridge with internet ;)

    My phone is a bare bones one, too. To make up for it I do have an iPod, but I do actually use many of its features. And one day I WILL find a proper use for my periodic table app!!! Maybe in the future I will be teaching 8th grade physical science...
  • edited May 2010
    Zachaa wrote: »
    When a refrigerator can automatically scan its own contents, compile a shopping list, and e-mail it to my iPod... that's when I'll consider a fridge with internet ;)

    My phone is a bare bones one, too. To make up for it I do have an iPod, but I do actually use many of its features. And one day I WILL find a proper use for my periodic table app!!! Maybe in the future I will be teaching 8th grade physical science...
  • StaticToyboxStaticToybox Veteran
    edited May 2010
    Palzang wrote: »
    It's sort of like the refrigerators they have with internet. No, I'm not kidding! Guess you can link to all the "cool" sites!

    Woah, wait....... You mean it's now possible to surf for porn while making a sandwich? Truely we have now reached the pinnacle of human achievement. Enlightenment, by comparison, seems unsatisfying now.
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited May 2010
    I know, what more could we possibly hope for?! It reminds me of the story of the US Patent Office some time back in the 1800s when they proposed that it be shut down as all the inventions that were worth inventing had obviously already been invented, so why bother anymore? :rolleyes:

    Palzang
  • edited May 2010
    And then came quantum mechanics... :)
  • PalzangPalzang Veteran
    edited May 2010
    And frisbees. Don't forget the frisbees!

    Palzang
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