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Western Buddhism

DaozenDaozen Veteran
edited April 2010 in Buddhism Basics
- Is there a 'Western Buddhism' developing, or already here ?
- What are its characteristics ?
- What is/will be its relationship to other Buddhist traditions ?

Namaste

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  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited April 2010
    Interesting questions DZ.

    'Not sure' is my answer.

    Some sense of Western Buddhism sometimes occurs in the USA but most other places appear to be following Asian tradition.

    :)
  • NiosNios Veteran
    edited April 2010
    What is western? What can be identified as western in this modern society?

    :)

    Nios.
  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    edited April 2010
    Nios wrote: »
    What is western? What can be identified as western in this modern society?
    I was thinking along the lines of people in English-speaking countries (USA, Canada, UK, Australia/NZ) and Europe (ie the tradition 'West') who do not associate with any particular sangha. Maybe they have tried a couple but never settled down, maybe they never connected with a sangha at all. I have a feeling there are several million of these types of 'new Buddhists'. I'd say there a few on this forum. I also suspect many of these types question some of the teachings such as cosmology & rebirth.
  • NiosNios Veteran
    edited April 2010
    Daozen wrote: »
    I was thinking along the lines of people in English-speaking countries (USA, Canada, UK, Australia/NZ) and Europe (ie the tradition 'West') who do not associate with any particular sangha. Maybe they have tried a couple but never settled down, maybe they never connected with a sangha at all. I have a feeling there are several million of these types of 'new Buddhists'. I'd say there a few on this forum. I also suspect many of these types question some of the teachings such as cosmology & rebirth.

    Hi Daozen :),

    Well, nearly all American & English sanghas speak english as their main language. Many sanghas are now run by western monastics and teachers. Many sanghas chant in english, but this is not a conscious decision to create "western" buddhism but to allow people to understand what they are chanting. ;)

    Is this what you mean by "western" buddhism?

    Nios.
  • edited April 2010
    I've always thought a lot of Westerners ( please I'm speaking in generals here :D ) come from a educated middle class background, so tend to follow a "logical" or core form, rejecting some ideas such as planes of existence, supernatural powers, even sometimes forms of rebirth seen as reincarnation.
    Again I'm speaking in general.
  • edited April 2010
    I think he might be referring to what a lot of people view as the twisted, confused version of Buddhism which is labeled as "California (or Hippie) Buddhism"
  • edited April 2010
    I think for the most part people in the USA are trying to find a form of Eastern Buddhism that fits with their own temperament and personality and going with that; there are, after all, many forms to choose from.

    I'm American myself, but I haven't chosen a particular school; I'm something of a universal Buddhist, or a follower of the Buddha-Dhamma (as in the teachings of the Buddha and not a particular school/tradition). This allows me to remain open to the teachings of all schools for what they have to offer, picking up this teaching here and then that teaching there, finding out for myself what works; what is true.
  • FoibleFullFoibleFull Canada Veteran
    edited April 2010
    I would think that the label "Western Buddhism" could be applied wherever a traditional Eastern approach has been adapted for Western attitudes and ways of thinking.

    Some "Western" Buddhism is adapted to remove those attitudes that we find difficult to swallow ... humility, the unimportance of our personality and the unimportance of our ideas.

    Some "Western" Buddhism is adapted to allow for those behaviors that are considered "wrongful/unwise" in traditional Buddhism ... elevating career and financial success over commitment to Buddhist practice, consuming drugs (street drugs, alcohol, cigarettes), and one's own sexual proclivities.

    Some "Western Buddhism" is directed towards becoming happier rather than seeking freedom from attachment to both happiness and unhappiness.

    Some "Western" Buddhism is nothing more than an empty pride in being outside-the-norm, or seeking approval of a particular group.

    Some "Western" Buddhism is a melding of modern psychology and traditional Buddhist concepts, and it will be interesting to see how this evolves.

    Some "Western" Buddhism puts Buddhism into a huge melting pot with astrology, crystals, etc, etc, stirs it up and dishes it out.

    What have I missed?
  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    edited April 2010
    I'm honestly not sure what 'Western Buddhism' might be, but i'm getting some good ideas from you guys about various possible 'types' of Western Buddhism:

    - New Traditionalists: People in traditional sanghas in Western countries who do all their teaching, prayers etc in English or other European languages and generally try to adapt their practice to be more relevant to their cultural background

    - Universal Buddhists: People who are unaffiliated with any particular school or tradition, who use ideas and practices from different branches but who nevertheless see themselves as practicing the core teachings in some way.

    - New Age Buddhists, aka Hippy Buddhists, California Buddhists: People who freely mix and match Buddhist ideas with other 'new age' concepts that may or may not be tradtionally connected with Buddhism, e.g. alternative medicine, energy healing, chakras, crystals etc

    - Rationalist Buddhists, aka Materialist Buddhists: Like New Age Buddhists these people mix and match Buddhist ideas with those from other traditions, but in this case they have a rational, empiric, scientific, sceptical type of mindset, so they are most likely not believers in 'new age' ideas and may also question some of the more 'supernatural' elements found in Buddhism, e.g. the six realms, cosmology, perhaps rebirth too

    - Happiness Buddhists: Those people who see Buddhism as simply a benefical psychological tool that may be used to increase personal happiness

    What do people think of these emerging categories? Any more?

    Namaste
  • IrrisIrris Explorer
    edited April 2010
    Most of those "types" of Buddhists seem to be simply illustrating all the different reasons anyone turns to religion at all. Whether they're Western or not.
  • edited April 2010
    Dao: Your definition of "Universal Buddhist" matches my own practice. What's even more strange is that I've used that term to define myself at times, but not because I heard it anywhere. It just made sense to call myself a universal Buddhist because I accept and study the totality of Buddhist thought. Weird. :)
  • RenGalskapRenGalskap Veteran
    edited April 2010
    Irris wrote: »
    Most of those "types" of Buddhists seem to be simply illustrating all the different reasons anyone turns to religion at all. Whether they're Western or not.
    Good point. Substitute "Christian" or "Muslim" for "Buddhist" and the validity doesn't change.
  • edited April 2010
    I guess western Buddhism might be anything that eastern Buddhists do not recognise as Buddhism. It is a term of convenience but it certainly seems funny to be using it in the south east (here in Australia) part of the world, according to Europe anyway.

    There are some legitimate reasons for the evolution of a western Buddhism. For example in the book Healing Emotions, a record of formal professional conversation between the Dalia Lama and western scientists and researchers, meditation teachers talked of their problems dealing with their practitioners having very low self esteem and this being a large barrier to their practice and learning. It took a lot of explanation for the Dalai Lama to comprehend what they where talking about. He was shocked he could not believe that people could feel so badly about themselves. Our society has done a very bad job at creating a feeling of belonging or connection.
  • edited April 2010
    Here is some information on the NKT which kind of brought Buddhism to the west (no one please respond with anti - NKT comments - i know all about the issues within the Buddhist religion with this sect of Buddhism!)

    "When in 1977, Venerable Geshe Kelsang Gyatso accepted an invitation to come to the West and teach, a new era dawned for Kadampa Buddhism in this world. With the blessings of his Spiritual Guide, Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, Geshe Kelsang took the essential meaning of Kadam Dharma and presented it in a way that could be easily understood and practiced by people not just in the West, but throughout the world.
    This precious Dharma taught at first by Buddha, introduced into Tibet by the great Indian Teacher Atisha, and promoted by the great Tibetan Master, Je Tsongkhapa was now available to people of all countries. Through the actions of Geshe Kelsang Kadampa Buddhism has now become a truly global religion."
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