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TheFoundTheFound
edited April 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Anger and frustration come, because we expect to bend things to our will, in ONE breath...

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  • Micsunderland3Micsunderland3
    edited April 2010
    I would say that anger and frustration come because we expect things to bend to our will with any amount of breaths.
  • DropDrop
    edited April 2010
    Anger comes because you believe that something is important enough to call for forceful action. Frustration leads to such anger.

    Frustration comes from wanting but not seeing what is thwarting your grasp. The urge to anger is teased with each reminder of the futility.

    It all begins with discomfort and doubt. Due to the discomfort, a decision must be made yet there isn't enough information so a presumption is born.. the beginning of deception, blindness, wanting, frustration, anger, judgment, and death.

    Want for nothing unless it is in certain grasp.
  • ZenBadgerZenBadger Derbyshire, UK Veteran
    edited April 2010
    I think anger comes from an imbalance between expectations and outcomes which is seized upon by the ego. Anger seems to stem from some perceived unfairness or slight to the self. We don't generally get angry if someone gives us a gift unless the ego is at work pouring poison into the ear, such as imagining the gift to be deliberately better than the one we gave earlier or if the gift is some criticism of the self such as a diet book or a plastic surgery voucher. The ego sets up false expectations of the way in which other people and life in general should treat us and when these are not met it reacts by causing the psychological and physiological states that make up a burst of anger.

    Just my thoughts on the subject, I would be interested if the sutra-wizards can come up with some stuff on anger and frustration.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited April 2010
    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an07/an07.060.nymo.html

    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn07/sn07.002.than.html
  • aMattaMatt Veteran
    edited April 2010
    TheFound wrote: »
    Anger and frustration come, because we expect

    I think that's enough.
  • river_cadenceriver_cadence
    edited April 2010
    We expect because we feel entitled. It goes back to ego.

    Do we deserve anything in this world?
  • patbbpatbb Veteran
    edited April 2010
    river_cadence wrote: »
    Do we deserve anything in this world?
    the world might be a far different place without concepts such as "deserving"...
  • NirvanaNirvana aka BUBBA   `     `   South Carolina, USA Veteran
    edited April 2010
    river_cadence wrote: »
    Do we deserve anything in this world?

    Perhaps not "we."

    However, others do deserve at least the freedom to breathe fresh air, free of hostility, rage, and compulsion to act against their consciences.

    Civilization demands that we grant to others what we would wish for ourselves. Not to grant this "entitlement" to others would greatly diminish our integrity.

    There are other dimensions beyond our own strivings.

    Others also exist and upon that fact should rest most of our joy.

    To those for whom ego is not a problem there really is no problem. Thoughts may come and go, but if they are quickly dispersed no harm is done.

    Who can deny that anger is some sort of willfulness that robs us of our moral sense so long as it lasts?
    patbb wrote: »
    the world might be a far different place without concepts such as "deserving"...
    Agreed.
  • NomaDBuddhaNomaDBuddha Scalpel wielder :) Bucharest Veteran
    edited April 2010
    TheFound wrote: »
    Anger and frustration come, because we expect to bend things to our will, in ONE breath...

    Nice one ! I've observed this a veeeeeery long time ago. No kidding.
    To bend things to my will in one breath ...sounds like you've described me !:D
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