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loneliness

edited June 2010 in General Banter
So I feel like many of my friends are not as self-aware as I am -I don't know if this is fair to say- if I am able to judge that- but I guess I mean that they are more interested in material items and gaining societal status than I am. I have not yet found friends who have similar viewpoints as me.

I try to practice my compassion when my friends continue to gossip or shop for expensive items that they believe will bring them happiness- however I find myself becoming lonely. I feel so blessed that I have reached a way of thinking that has allowed me to become satisfied with who I am and my viewpoint on the world, but I also feel that it makes me lonely since I haven't found others who think this way (besides this forum).

This could all be good- I haven't been attached to any particular friendship- I really have just been working on myself. But I was wondering if anyone has any advice or has had a similar experience in having to balance non-attachment/differences from others yet using compassion with loneliness?

Thank you very much!

Comments

  • edited June 2010
    It helps to focus on the similarities between people. I think that there are far more similarities, yet we tend to exaggerate the differences and that just increases loneliness.
  • edited June 2010
    In any case, I think most people feel lonely. It's pretty common to wish that we could connect to people on a less superficial level.
  • GuyCGuyC Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Loneliness does not arise if you are your own best friend. Be happy to be who you are, then if friends come, fine, if they go, also fine.
  • aMattaMatt Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Jigrieco,

    There are two different angles to this problem, and I must admit I ran into the same issue. The first is that being lonely is ok, its natural to feel a bit of solitude when you are in a much different place than the people around you. Its like being in a crowd of people who don't speak in a language that is compatible, and they are watching a game you aren't interested in. At least it was for me.

    So just notice that loneliness. Well, hello there! Its just another feeling, kind of like boredom or drowsiness in meditation. Notice and keep observing. Eventually, the feeling passes and you can be much more compassionate in the moment with others. What you do is dissolve the part of "you" that is viewing itself as separate from them, and you can appreciate where they are at more fully. Does that make sense?

    The other side of it is that having friends who share a similar view to your own could be wonderful to cultivate. :) To find some, ask yourself this: If you were free from any ties, and were going to go do something based 100% off what your heart wishes you'd do, where would you go? I'll bet if you head toward that answer, you'll find others who share the same focus and compassionate view as your own.

    As you're cultivating more mindfulness, you're bound to be bound to old hangouts, old friends and old patterns. Be courageous enough to outgrow them... your roots will thank you.

    With warmth,

    Matt
  • GuyCGuyC Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Well said, as usual Matt.
  • edited June 2010
    GuyC wrote: »
    Loneliness does not arise if you are your own best friend. Be happy to be who you are, then if friends come, fine, if they go, also fine.

    Very true.
  • patbbpatbb Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Ajahn Brahm talk on loneliness
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  • MountainsMountains Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Hi Jigreico

    I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes it does feel lonely out here, especially if you live somewhere that you're the only Buddhist for miles in any direction (or so it seems). But even other Buddhists don't always get along well with each other. We're all just people after all. I'm sure I do things that would drive other dharma practitioners nuts :) But as noted above, just notice the loneliness and let that help you along the path. People come and go in our lives all the time. Try not to cling to them thinking "oh no, if I let them go I'll be even lonelier...". Just go with the flow!

    Peace

    Mtns
  • edited June 2010
    So I feel like many of my friends are not as self-aware as I am -I don't know if this is fair to say- if I am able to judge that- but I guess I mean that they are more interested in material items and gaining societal status than I am. I have not yet found friends who have similar viewpoints as me.

    It can be tempting for people who are well-read or interested in philosophy to begin to feel isolated or above their peers. I felt that sort of tug when I began devouring books back in high school, but I thankfully kept myself pretty well grounded and down-to-earth. Hard labor and 6-day work weeks helped with that, since all my witticisms and historical knowledge went out the window when a wall needed to be painted.
    This could all be good- I haven't been attached to any particular friendship- I really have just been working on myself. But I was wondering if anyone has any advice or has had a similar experience in having to balance non-attachment/differences from others yet using compassion with loneliness?

    I know the lonlieness feeling though. I've struggled with it before despite many friends. Especially after breaking up with my ex. I tend to be pretty different from most of my good friends. I avoid the drinking, the drugs, consumerism, and the fast life in general. Nothing really morally against it, but I've always been too cheap to bother with such things. :lol:

    I say the more friends the merrier personally. Just enjoy your friends for the good company that they are, and forget the fact that you have differences in attitudes towards life and living. It works pretty well for me.
  • edited June 2010
    Loneliness is just one type of craving. If it comes up frequently, it's a good sign that you haven't mastered your mind and that there is work to do.

    Cheers, Thomas
  • pegembarapegembara Veteran
    edited June 2010
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  • edited June 2010
    You all helped me very much- even after I posted this I noticed the loneliness fading away which further proves that emotions really are changing at all times!

    Thanks a lot :)
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