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Where can I find out how to prenounce the words I find it Buddhist texts for things?

BuddhaOdinBuddhaOdin
edited June 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Where can I find out how to prenounce the words I find in Buddhist texts for things? Like towns , rivers and peoples names. I have never seen or heard them before and I don't know how they are prenounced.

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  • SherabDorjeSherabDorje
    edited June 2010
    Google.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited June 2010
    ......And the word is 'pronounced'. So make sure you spell them correctly, when researching.

    Off you go! :lol:
  • BuddhaOdinBuddhaOdin
    edited June 2010
    federica wrote: »
    ......And the word is 'pronounced'. So make sure you spell them correctly, when researching.

    Off you go! :lol:

    What is funny about that? Have you not seen a spelling mistake before? You are showing your true colours; cruel and spiteful.

    You should pay heed to this "The tongue like a sharp knife... Kills without drawing blood." - Lord Buddha
  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    BuddhaOdin wrote: »
    What is funny about that? Have you not seen a spelling mistake before? You are showing your true colours; cruel and spiteful.

    You should pay heed to this "The tongue like a sharp knife... Kills without drawing blood." - Lord Buddha
    Calling Federica cruel, spiteful or as in another thread unkind is much worse, much further from Right Speech, than any views you have on her character or anything that she has said. She was speaking in jest (joking), and your reaction is entirely uncalled for and inappropriate.

    It's unhelpful to know quotes only to show others when you think they're acting wrongfully.....apply those quotes to yourself, to your own actions, before all else. That is what they're there for; not to judge others, but to judge yourself. To know if you are acting rightfully.

    I hope that some part of this makes sense to you, because otherwise you're going down a self-destructive road that will lead at the very least to being banned from this site. It's happened before, and people rarely listen to advice, but I offer it regardless.

    Namaste
  • patbbpatbb Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Javelin wrote: »
    and your reaction is entirely uncalled for and inappropriate.
    aren't all emotional reactions unskillful and ultimately inappropriate?

    Many react with anger, pride and to spite others around here... (react to words written by strangers on the internet of all thing ;))


    Many seem to have come to this forum or to Buddhism specifically to seek help from others to overcome these unskillful reactions which can create much suffering in their lives...

    I think ban is inappropriate. at least until a few warnings were given for the missteps.
  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    Yeah I didn't mean 'should', only 'will be' if such action continues. I'm not a moderator, just someone watching a car wreck about to happen and suggesting someone should apply the brakes. :) [and watch the road more carefully in the future; it's all about learning to correct our views]

    Namaste
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    What word would you like to pronounce? Put a list of words and I'll tell you how to pronounce them all.
  • RichardHRichardH Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Rig pa'i ye shes wrote: »
    What word would you like to pronounce? Put a list of words and I'll tell you how to pronounce them all.

    The russian word for dog.....собака.


    thanks.
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Huh? I'm talking to BuddhaOdin. BuddhaOdin says "Where can I find out how to prenounce the words I find in Buddhist texts for things? Like towns , rivers and peoples names. I have never seen or heard them before and I don't know how they are prenounced."
    Now I don't know what has Russian dogs got to do with?

    BuddhaOdin you can still ask about your place names and I tell you if I know. Okay :)
  • RichardHRichardH Veteran
    edited June 2010
    I was just funnin.


    ...with respect :)
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Why? I don't see...?
  • RichardHRichardH Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Seeing your post out of context tickled the funny bone. My response was a good natured sociable kind of forumy thing. However it may be that you are set in a more serious frame nay very serious and in that case my good natured joke was innappropriate..... to you. or something.


    nice to meet you.
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Posts are out of context? Because member asked for help how to pronounce and I offered help to him to pronounce it?

    Or is it a comedy Buddhism forum? I don't see...?
  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    It was just a joke, Rig. Your post was far away from the original post, and one seeing it might think it directed at anyone (rather than to the original poster). So Richard jokingly asked you to give the pronunciation for the Russian word for dog. Simple. It wasn't mean to be serious, and BuddhaOdin seems to have vanished as he hasn't replied to any of the above posts anyway.

    We all seem to have different senses of humor. Let's not get sucked into not being able to understand one another. :)

    Namaste
  • johnathanjohnathan Canada Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Rig pa'i ye shes's post only seemed out of context because he was ignoring all the off topic posts before it and addressing the OP... But it was the OP who derailed it because of his serious hate on for Federica and did not appreciate her sense of humor.
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    I think I'd wait for BuddhaOdin to ask what names he would like help with to pronounce and not take notice of the other comments that don't help him :)
  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    On the contrary the other posts in this thread are much more to the heart of where BuddhaOdin needs help than how to pronounce names. :)

    Namaste
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Is it Sanskrit names, Chinese, Tibetan, Pali, Korean, Japanese, Prakrit, Apabhramsa, Dakini script, Arapacana, or some other names he needs help for?
  • johnathanjohnathan Canada Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Good point Javelin... I agree....
  • RichardHRichardH Veteran
    edited June 2010
    This is truly an interesting thread. Rig's post was in context yet seen out of context by me because I, unlike Rig, had seen the poster of the OP self immolate. A comedy of errors.

    Anyhooo night all:)
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Do you mean google is the best answer for when someone can find out how to pronounce difficult names?
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Richard H wrote: »
    A comedy of errors.

    Is comedy site? Or helpful for Buddhists?
  • lightwithinlightwithin Veteran
    edited June 2010
    I think people here just need to learn how to take a simple joke. Let's not take ourselves too seriously next time, or otherwise awkwardness ensues like we've seen here. Smile you all!
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Why is so many jokes but not many helping to BuddhaOdin's question? About pronouncing the difficult terms in his Buddhist study. Is it to ask a question and then make series of jokes about?
    Maybe if he comes back and mentions some of the names some of us can give him help.
  • RichardHRichardH Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Rig pa'i ye shes wrote: »
    Why is so many jokes but not many helping to BuddhaOdin's question? About pronouncing the difficult terms in his Buddhist study. Is it to ask a question and then make series of jokes about?
    Maybe if he comes back and mentions some of the names some of us can give him help.
    You are quite right, but there is a misunderstanding here. BuddhaOdin has violated some rules of conduct in the forum. You are not aware of this. It is unlikely that BuddhaOdin will be back. Your wish to help is respected.
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    I don't see if BuddhaOdin asked for help to pronounce in his study, but then he may not be invited back because his request is not made in the right way?
  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    Just read the first few posts in the thread. BuddhaOdin may have started it asking about pronunciations, but he changed its course entirely by making hostile comments to a site moderator. There was also another thread created for the sole purpose of again attacking said moderator, and Lincoln (site administrator) had to step in and warn that any further action would result in an immediate ban.

    This is the sad story, and it may be that BuddhaOdin will not return as Richard has said. If he does, he must either make an internal mental change that will result in proper forum conduct, or further misconduct will lead (again) to an immediate ban.

    Namaste
  • lightwithinlightwithin Veteran
    edited June 2010
    Rig, read BuddhaOdin's post after Fede made a lil joke at his expense. That's what Richard is talking about when he says he broke the rules of conduct. Nothing more, nothing less.

    This thread is damaged way beyond repair IMHO. I'd close it or delete the meaningless posts (including mine where I said to "smile").
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    But from purusing of the thread BuddhaOdin made honest heart request for help and people made it a joke that he couldn't spell this English word "pronounce" and they made it joke as he said, "prenounce" - so it is a site for just making jokes about? But to augment knowledge in Buddhism or otherwise?
  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    I'm going to suggest that this thread be removed. It's not helping anything.

    Namaste
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    What about if BuddhaOdin couldn't get the help to pronounce some names and places in his Buddhist studies? Perhaps members here like myself can start to help him. Or it's not the proper thing to do here?
  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    The proper thing to do here is to view everything in the proper perspective. Federica, a site moderator that keeps this forum from chaos, made an innocent comment in jest (a joke), and in wrong view BuddhaOdin reacted very badly and has since not returned to explain, apologize, or interact with any others including yourself.

    This is a very helpful forum, if used correctly, just as society is a pretty nice place if you don't walk up to police officers and punch them in the face, expecting no consequences.

    Namaste
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    But BuddhaOdin asked a question for help from good faith and site members or facilitator are making series of jokes about it. So it is a joke site?
    I still would help him with the pronouncing if he wanted.
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Who's BuddhaOdin? I only heard about him on this site - I thought if I could help with his pronouncing Buddhist terms.
  • JavelinJavelin
    edited June 2010
    I think you're BuddhaOdin, Rig, and I'll say no more. :)

    Namaste
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Is it another joke?
  • LincLinc Site owner Detroit Moderator
    edited June 2010
    Rig pa'i ye shes wrote: »
    Is comedy site?
    No, it is a cultural misunderstanding.

    Laughter can be light-hearted or silliness, not just mockery. BuddhaOdin chose to be offended and replied inappropriately. Richard chose to bring levity to the situation with his comment.

    You're reading the words in this discussion literally when more is required to understand it properly.
  • LincLinc Site owner Detroit Moderator
    edited June 2010
    Javelin wrote: »
    I think you're BuddhaOdin, Rig, and I'll say no more. :)
    He isn't; I had the same thought and checked.
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    Lincoln wrote: »
    No, it is a cultural misunderstanding.

    Laughter can be light-hearted or silliness, not just mockery. BuddhaOdin chose to be offended and replied inappropriately. Richard chose to bring levity to the situation with his comment.

    You're reading the words in this discussion literally when more is required to understand it properly.

    More is need to understand properly....Let me analyze if I can...
    BuddhaOdin came with faithful heart to ask for help and site's moderator mocked him for spelling this word pronounce a different way, "prenounce".
    And make no attempt to help, but merely mock and teases him...
    This is a cultural misunderstanding why for me this seems unusual for Buddhism forum? Or again as you say some requirement of understanding by me that I missed it?
  • babystarsbabystars
    edited June 2010
    There's a chinese phrase "说者无心 听者有意", which meant that although the person who said it didn't have that meaning, the listener thought otherwise.

    I guess by starting this post, it probably meant that BuddhaOdin has a lot of words he/she wants to pronounce, which is probably why people suggested using Google (which is pretty much everyone's best friend when in doubt). A joke was cracked only to lighten the atmosphere but it really depends on how you view it. Even if it was offensive, I don't see how using the same attitude is going to solve the problem =)

    Peace.
  • LincLinc Site owner Detroit Moderator
    edited June 2010
    Rig pa'i ye shes wrote: »
    merely mock and teases
    Lincoln wrote:
    not just mockery
    Now you're not understanding literal words either. I won't repeat myself.
  • Rigpa-iyeshesRigpa-iyeshes
    edited June 2010
    babystars wrote: »
    A joke was cracked only to lighten the atmosphere

    To lighten atmosphere, then all there was a question about prenunciation, a suggestion towards google - what is wrong with this atmosphere that she must lighten it by mocking him for his spelling mistake then bid him on his way with a laughter face -
    so by cracking the atmosphere like that it is better?
  • babystarsbabystars
    edited June 2010
    Rig pa'i ye shes wrote: »
    To lighten atmosphere, then all there was a question about prenunciation, a suggestion towards google - what is wrong with this atmosphere that she must lighten it by mocking him for his spelling mistake then bid him on his way with a laughter face -
    so by cracking the atmosphere like that it is better?

    From how I view it, it was because there was only an one-word answer from our fellow forum member and fed also wanted to remind BuddhaOdin to take note of spelling mistakes without sounding too serious. In fact, I don't view it as mockery. It all depends on how it is taken.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited June 2010
    well, having been absent for the whole of this thread due to a time differential (meaning I was getting a good night's sleep) I honestly had no idea a little wisecrack like that would stimulate such intense discussion.

    Obviously the crack was not as wise as I'd intended.
    I'm sorry B.O was so stirred and angered by it.

    To answer the question, we would need the words themselves to help with pronunciation.
    Until we know the word and language, it's impossible to either assist with translation, or offer a reliable source.
    If BuddhaOdin wishes to return to this thread, or wants to start another one, he can,.

    Thanks to all who responded with tact and understanding.
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