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Re: Heroes
Ok no one's interested in my travel thread.
Hero's, we've got them from Gandi to Guevara.
First me. My Hero is my wife. Why ? Well as you guest she has to put up with me. Secondly she is a Deputy Head Teacher, the shit she has to put up with on a day to day basis is up unbelieveable.
I have got this crazy notion that from time to time and for no reason at all she will say something so true that for just a split second she is the most enlightened person in the world. It only lasts for a split second though.Which might be a good thing.
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Hero's, we've got them from Gandi to Guevara.
First me. My Hero is my wife. Why ? Well as you guest she has to put up with me. Secondly she is a Deputy Head Teacher, the shit she has to put up with on a day to day basis is up unbelieveable.
I have got this crazy notion that from time to time and for no reason at all she will say something so true that for just a split second she is the most enlightened person in the world. It only lasts for a split second though.Which might be a good thing.
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My daughter and my husband are my two heroes. And my mom - she is another hero of mine. She has had a hard life, but you would never know it by talking to her. She is honestly one of the nicest people I have ever known.
I'll have to think about that one.
-bf
The emergency services who gave their lives during 9/11........true Heroes!!
Mother Theresa........Martin Luther King.........
The little Monk, who after 14 years of imprisonment and constant torture in Tibet, blinded, deafened, beaten, every bone in his body broken, when asked what he had most feared during his ordeal replied..." Losing my Compassion for the Chinese".
Hmm... Like posting an unfounded reply like this? Maybe not... Let's see... I lost count... But most are bad stuff relatively bad to me...
A somewhat cryptic reply.........I can understand someone using the word Hero in relation to the one's they love, admire, and those that use it as a term to descibe selfless sacrifice and contribution to their fellow man.
I respectfully suggest that you give a little more thought before replying to threads, prehaps a little humility would not go amiss..........everyone has either nominated someone else or paused for thought....You nominated You...........
One day, who knows you may go on to become someone's Hero......
Like - our President Jimmy Carter. No longer our President - but a president that took a lot of flack and was involved in running our country during a bad economy.
A lot of people I talk to think Jimmy Carter was an idiot that ran our country into the ground. I think Jimmy Carter was and still is a wonderful humanitarian. To this day he works on helping other countries re-define themselves (if they so wish) helps build housing for low-income or homeless families, has forgone wasting Secret Service protection and just sitting back on his laurels.
But at home? One of my heroes is my son. He's not very old - but he's been through a lot. And he's coped with a lot of ugliness for 80% of his life. He's a very caring and loving child. I wish nothing but the best for him and hope I can continue to learn from him.
-bf
But, he can be one of yours.
Really.
I don't mind.
-bf
My favourite quote from Churchill, "...if the British Commonwealth lasts for a thousand years, men will say 'This was their finest hour.' "
WHAT!?!?!!?
I've never heard this story.
Is this something you can post the details of?
-bf
Sorry, my friend.
I meet your Churchill and raise you a Bush...
-bf
Bushims...
"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." —George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005
"If it were to rain a lot, there is concern from the Army Corps of Engineers that the levees might break. And so, therefore, we're cautious about encouraging people to return at this moment of history." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2005
"Listen, I want to thank leaders of the — in the faith — faith-based and community-based community for being here." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 6, 2005
"So please give cash money to organizations that are directly involved in helping save lives — save the life who had been affected by Hurricane Katrina." —George W. Bush, Washington D.C., Sept. 6, 2005
"I can't wait to join you in the joy of welcoming neighbors back into neighborhoods, and small businesses up and running, and cutting those ribbons that somebody is creating new jobs." —George W. Bush, Poplarville, Miss., Sept. 5, 2005
"And Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." —George W. Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown who resigned 10 days later amid criticism over his job performance, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Read more stupid quotes about Hurricane Katrina)
"We've got a lot of rebuilding to do. First, we're going to save lives and stabilize the situation. And then we're going to help these communities rebuild. The good news is -- and it's hard for some to see it now -- that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." (Laughter) --George W. Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005
"My thoughts are, we're going to get somebody who knows what they're talking about when it comes to rebuilding cities." —George W. Bush, on rebuilding New Orleans, Biloxi, Miss., Sept. 2, 2005
"Americans should be prudent in their use of energy during the course of the next few weeks. Don't buy gas if you don't need it." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 1, 2005
"It's totally wiped out. ... It's devastating, it's got to be doubly devastating on the ground." —George W. Bush, turning to his aides while surveying Hurricane Katrina flood damage from Air Force One , Aug. 31, 2005
"The best place for the facts to be done is by somebody who's spending time investigating it." —George W. Bush, on the probe into how CIA agent Valerie Plame's identity was leaked, Washington D.C., July 18, 2005
"I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend." —George W. Bush, on visiting Denmark, Washington D.C., June 29, 2005
"I was going to say he's a piece of work, but that might not translate too well. Is that all right, if I call you a 'piece of work'?" —George W. Bush to Jean-Claude Juncker, prime minister of Luxembourg, Washington, D.C., June 20, 2005
"The relations with, uhh — Europe are important relations, and they've, uhh — because, we do share values. And, they're universal values, they're not American values or, you know — European values, they're universal values. And those values — uhh — being universal, ought to be applied everywhere." —George W. Bush, at a press conference with European Union dignitaries, Washington, D.C., June 20, 2005
"You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the attacks reminded us that we are at war." —George W. Bush, on the Sept. 11 attacks, Washington, D.C., June 8, 2005
"And the second way to defeat the terrorists is to spread freedom. You see, the best way to defeat a society that is — doesn't have hope, a society where people become so angry they're willing to become suiciders, is to spread freedom, is to spread democracy." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 8, 2005
"It seemed like to me they based some of their decisions on the word of — and the allegations — by people who were held in detention, people who hate America, people that had been trained in some instances to disassemble — that means not tell the truth." —George W. Bush, on an Amnesty International report on prisoner abuse at Guantanamo Bay, Washington, D.C., May 31, 2005 (Listen to audio)
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." —George W. Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005 (Listen to audio)
"We discussed the way forward in Iraq, discussed the importance of a democracy in the greater Middle East in order to leave behind a peaceful tomorrow." —George W. Bush, Tbilisi, Georgia, May 10, 2005
"I think younger workers — first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government — promises that have been promised, benefits that we can't keep. That's just the way it is." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 4, 2005
"It means your own money would grow better than that which the government can make it grow. And that's important." —George W. Bush, on what private accounts could do for Social Security funds, Falls Church, Va., April 29, 2005
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"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm's way." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"We expect the states to show us whether or not we're achieving simple objectives — like literacy, literacy in math, the ability to read and write." —George W. Bush, on federal education requirements, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"He understands the need for a timely write of the constitution." —George W. Bush, on Prime Minister Iyad Allawi of Iraq, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"Well, we've made the decision to defeat the terrorists abroad so we don't have to face them here at home. And when you engage the terrorists abroad, it causes activity and action." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"But Iraq has — have got people there that are willing to kill, and they're hard-nosed killers. And we will work with the Iraqis to secure their future." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"We have enough coal to last for 250 years, yet coal also prevents an environmental challenge." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 20, 2005
"Part of the facts is understanding we have a problem, and part of the facts is what you're going to do about it." —George W. Bush, Kirtland, Ohio, April 15, 2005
"I'm going to spend a lot of time on Social Security. I enjoy it. I enjoy taking on the issue. I guess, it's the Mother in me." —George W. Bush, Washington D.C., April 14, 2005
"We look forward to analyzing and working with legislation that will make — it would hope — put a free press's mind at ease that you're not being denied information you shouldn't see." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 14, 2005
"I want to thank you for the importance that you've shown for education and literacy." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2005
"I understand there's a suspicion that we—we're too security-conscience." —George W. Bush, Washington D.C., April 14, 2005
"If they pre-decease or die early, there's an asset base to be able to pass on to a loved one." —George W. Bush, on Social Security money held in private accounts, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, March 30, 2005
"In this job you've got a lot on your plate on a regular basis; you don't have much time to sit around and wander, lonely, in the Oval Office, kind of asking different portraits, 'How do you think my standing will be?'" —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005
"In terms of timetables, as quickly as possible — whatever that means." —George W. Bush, on his time frame for shoring up Social Security, Washington D.C., March 16, 2005
"I repeat, personal accounts do not permanently fix the solution." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005
"This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table." —George W. Bush, Brussels, Belgium, Feb. 22, 2005
"If you're a younger person, you ought to be asking members of Congress and the United States Senate and the president what you intend to do about it. If you see a train wreck coming, you ought to be saying, what are you going to do about it, Mr. Congressman, or Madam Congressman?" —George W. Bush, Detroit, Mich., Feb. 8, 2005
"Because the — all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculate, for example, is on the table; whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those — changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be — or closer delivered to what has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the — like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate — the benefits will rise based upon inflation, as opposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those — if that growth is affected, it will help on the red." —George W. Bush, explaining his plan to save Social Security, Tampa, Fla., Feb. 4, 2005
"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005
"After all, Europe is America's closest ally." —George W. Bush, Mainz, Germany, Feb. 23, 2005
"I'm also mindful that man should never try to put words in God's mouth. I mean, we should never ascribe natural disasters or anything else to God. We are in no way, shape, or form should a human being, play God." —George W. Bush, ABC's 20/20, Washington D.C., Jan. 14, 2005
"I want to appreciate those of you who wear our nation's uniform for your sacrifice." —George W. Bush, Jacksonville, Fla., Jan. 14, 2005
"I speak plainly sometimes, but you've got to be mindful of the consequences of the words. So put that down. I don't know if you'd call that a confession, a regret, something." —George W. Bush, speaking to reporters, Washington, D.C., Jan. 14, 2005
"Who could have possibly envisioned an erection — an election in Iraq at this point in history?" —George W. Bush, at the white House, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2005
"We need to apply 21st-century information technology to the health care field. We need to have our medical records put on the I.T." —George W. Bush, Collinsville, Ill., Jan. 5, 2005
"I believe we are called to do the hard work to make our communities and quality of life a better place." —George W. Bush, Collinsville, Ill., Jan. 5, 2005
"It's a time of sorrow and sadness when we lose a loss of life." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 21, 2004
"They can get in line like those who have been here legally and have been working to become a citizenship in a legal manner." —George W. Bush, on immigrant workers, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2004
"And so during these holiday seasons, we thank our blessings." —George W. Bush, Fort Belvoir, Va., Dec. 10, 2004
"Justice ought to be fair." —George W. Bush, speaking at the White House Economic Conference, Washington, D.C., Dec. 15, 2004
"The president and I also reaffirmed our determination to fight terror, to bring drug trafficking to bear, to bring justice to those who pollute our youth." —George W. Bush, speaking with Chilean President Ricardo Lagos, Santiago, Chile, Nov. 21, 2004
"We thought we were protected forever from trade policy or terrorist attacks because oceans protected us." —George W. Bush, speaking to business leaders at APEC Summit, Santiago, Chile, Nov. 20, 2004
"I always jest to people, the Oval Office is the kind of place where people stand outside, they're getting ready to come in and tell me what for, and they walk in and get overwhelmed in the atmosphere, and they say, man, you're looking pretty." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Nov. 4, 2004
"I have a record in office, as well. And all Americans have seen that record. September the 4th, 2001, I stood in the ruins of the Twin Towers. It's a day I will never forget." —George W. Bush, Marlton, New Jersey, Oct. 18, 2004
"After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week — we will have an all-volunteer army!" —George W. Bush, Daytona Beach, Fla., Oct. 16, 2004 (Watch video or listen to audio)
"I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Watch video or listen to audio)
"The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
"When a drug comes in from Canada, I wanna make sure it cures ya, not kill ya... I've got an obligation to make sure our government does everything we can to protect you. And one — my worry is that it looks like it's from Canada, and it might be from a third world." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
"We all thought there was weapons there, Robin. My opponent thought there was weapons there." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
"Let me see where to start here. First, the National Journal named Senator Kennedy the most liberal senator of all." —George W. Bush, referring to Sen. Kerry, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
"I own a timber company? That's news to me. Need some wood?" —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
"Another example would be the Dred Scott case, which is where judges, years ago, said that the Constitution allowed slavery because of personal property rights. That's a personal opinion. That's not what the constitution says. The constitution of the United States says we're all — you know, it doesn't say that. It doesn't speak to the equality of America." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
"The enemy understands a free Iraq will be a major defeat in their ideology of hatred. That's why they're fighting so vociferously." —George W. Bush, first presidential debate, Coral Gables, Fla., Sept. 30, 2004
"You know, it's hard work to try to love her as best as I can, knowing full well that the decision I made caused her loved one to be in harm's way." —George W. Bush, first presidential debate, Coral Gables, Fla., Sept. 30, 2004
"I think it's very important for the American President to mean what he says. That's why I understand that the enemy could misread what I say. That's why I try to be as clearly I can." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
"I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America. It's pretty darn strong. I mean, the people see a better future." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
"I'm not the expert on how the Iraqi people think, because I live in America, where it's nice and safe and secure." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
"It's the Afghan national army that went into Najaf and did the work there." —George W. Bush, referring to Iraqi troops during a joint press conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
"The CIA laid out several scenarios and said life could be lousy, life could be OK, life could be better, and they were just guessing as to what the conditions might be like." —George W. Bush, New York City, Sept. 21, 2004
"Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 17, 2004
"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —George W. Bush, Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip or listen to audio)
"We will make sure our troops have all that is necessary to complete their missions. That's why I went to the Congress last September and proposed fundamental — supplemental funding, which is money for armor and body parts and ammunition and fuel." —George W. Bush, Erie, Pa., Sept. 4, 2004
"Had we to do it over again, we would look at the consequences of catastrophic success, being so successful so fast that an enemy that should have surrendered or been done in escaped and lived to fight another day." —George W. Bush, telling Time magazine that he underestimated the Iraqi resistance
"They've seen me make decisions, they've seen me under trying times, they've seen me weep, they've seen me laugh, they've seen me hug. And they know who I am, and I believe they're comfortable with the fact that they know I'm not going to shift principles or shift positions based upon polls and focus groups." —George W. Bush, interview with USA Today, Aug. 27, 2004
"I hope you leave here and walk out and say, 'What did he say?'" —George W. Bush, Beaverton, Oregon, Aug. 13, 2004
"So community colleges are accessible, they're available, they're affordable, and their curriculums don't get stuck. In other words, if there's a need for a certain kind of worker, I presume your curriculums evolved over time." —George W. Bush, Niceville, Fla., Aug. 10, 2004
"Let me put it to you bluntly. In a changing world, we want more people to have control over your own life." —George W. Bush, Annandale, Va, Aug. 9, 2004
"As you know, we don't have relationships with Iran. I mean, that's — ever since the late '70s, we have no contacts with them, and we've totally sanctioned them. In other words, there's no sanctions — you can't — we're out of sanctions." —George W. Bush, Annandale, Va, Aug. 9, 2004
"Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a — you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." —George W. Bush, speaking to minority journalists, Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip or listen to audio)
"We actually misnamed the war on terror. It ought to be the Struggle Against Ideological Extremists Who Do Not Believe in Free Societies Who Happen to Use Terror as a Weapon to Try to Shake the Conscience of the Free World." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004
"I cut the taxes on everybody. I didn't cut them. The Congress cut them. I asked them to cut them." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004
"I wish I wasn't the war president. Who in the heck wants to be a war president? I don't." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip or listen to audio)
"We stand for things." —George W. Bush, Davenport, Iowa, Aug. 5, 2004
'I don't know why you're talking about Sweden. They're the neutral one. They don't have an army.'' --George W. Bush, during an Oval Office meeting with Rep. Tom Lantos, as reported by the New York Times
"Give me a chance to be your president and America will be safer and stronger and better." —Still-President George W. Bush, Marquette, Michigan, July 13, 2004
"I mean, if you've ever been a governor of a state, you understand the vast potential of broadband technology, you understand how hard it is to make sure that physics, for example, is taught in every classroom in the state. It's difficult to do. It's, like, cost-prohibitive." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 24, 2004
"And I am an optimistic person. I guess if you want to try to find something to be pessimistic about, you can find it, no matter how hard you look, you know?" —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 15, 2004
"I want to thank my friend, Senator Bill Frist, for joining us today. You're doing a heck of a job. You cut your teeth here, right? That's where you started practicing? That's good. He married a Texas girl, I want you to know. Karyn is with us. A West Texas girl, just like me." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., May 27, 2004
"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 25, 2004
"Like you, I have been disgraced about what I've seen on TV that took place in prison." —George W. Bush, Parkersburg, West Virginia, May 13, 2004
"My job is to, like, think beyond the immediate." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 21, 2004
"They could still be hidden, like the 50 tons of mustard gas on a turkey farm." —George W. Bush, on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Washington, D.C. , April 13, 2004
"This has been tough weeks in that country." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2004
"Coalition forces have encountered serious violence in some areas of Iraq. Our military commanders report that this violence is being insticated by three groups." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2004
"Obviously, I pray every day there's less casualty." —George W. Bush, Fort Hood, Texas, April 11, 2004
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"We're still being challenged in Iraq and the reason why is a free Iraq will be a major defeat in the cause of freedom." —George W. Bush, Charlotte, N.C., April 5, 2004
"Earlier today, the Libyan government released Fathi Jahmi. She's a local government official who was imprisoned in 2002 for advocating free speech and democracy." —George W. Bush, citing Jahmi, who is a man, in a speech paying tribute to women reformers during International Women's Week, Washington, D.C., March 12, 2004
"The march to war hurt the economy. Laura reminded me a while ago that remember what was on the TV screens — she calls me, 'George W.' — 'George W.' I call her, 'First Lady.' No, anyway — she said, we said, march to war on our TV screen." —George W. Bush, Bay Shore, New York, Mar. 11, 2004
"God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear." —George W. Bush, Los Angeles, Calif., March 3, 2004
"Recession means that people's incomes, at the employer level, are going down, basically, relative to costs, people are getting laid off." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 19, 2004
"Joe, I don't do nuance." —George W. Bush to Sen. Joseph Biden, as quoted in Time, Feb. 15, 2004
"The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war." —George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004
"But the true strength of America is found in the hearts and souls of people like Travis, people who are willing to love their neighbor, just like they would like to love themselves." —George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004
"In my judgment, when the United States says there will be serious consequences, and if there isn't serious consequences, it creates adverse consequences." —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004
"There is no such thing necessarily in a dictatorial regime of iron-clad absolutely solid evidence. The evidence I had was the best possible evidence that he had a weapon." —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004
"The recession started upon my arrival. It could have been — some say February, some say March, some speculate maybe earlier it started — but nevertheless, it happened as we showed up here. The attacks on our country affected our economy. Corporate scandals affected the confidence of people and therefore affected the economy. My decision on Iraq, this kind of march to war, affected the economy." —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004
"We do know that Saddam Hussein had the intent and the capabilities to cause great harm. We know he was a great danger….What we don't know yet is what we thought and what the Iraqi Survey Group has found, and we want to look at that." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. Feb. 2, 2004
"My views are one that speaks to freedom." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
"See, one of the interesting things in the Oval Office — I love to bring people into the Oval Office — right around the corner from here — and say, this is where I office, but I want you to know the office is always bigger than the person." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
"More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than — I say more Muslims — a lot of Muslims have died — I don't know the exact count — at Istanbul. Look at these different places around the world where there's been tremendous death and destruction because killers kill." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
"Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004 (Listen to audio clip)
"Just remember it's the birds that's supposed to suffer, not the hunter." —George W. Bush, advising quail hunter and New Mexico Sen. Pete Domenici, Roswell, N.M., Jan. 22, 2004
"For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America." —George W. Bush, State of the Union Address, Jan. 20, 2004
"I want to thank the astronauts who are with us, the courageous spacial entrepreneurs who set such a wonderful example for the young of our country." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. Jan. 14, 2004
"I was a prisoner too, but for bad reasons." —George W. Bush, to Argentine President Nestor Kirchner, on being told that all but one of the Argentine delegates to a summit meeting were imprisoned during the military dictatorship, Monterrey, Mexico, Jan. 13, 2004
"One of the most meaningful things that's happened to me since I've been the governor — the president — governor — president. Oops. Ex-governor. I went to Bethesda Naval Hospital to give a fellow a Purple Heart, and at the same moment I watched him—get a Purple Heart for action in Iraq — and at that same — right after I gave him the Purple Heart, he was sworn in as a citizen of the United States — a Mexican citizen, now a United States citizen." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 9, 2004
"And if you're interested in the quality of education and you're paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don't you volunteer? Why don't you mentor a child how to read?" —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004
"So thank you for reminding me about the importance of being a good mom and a great volunteer as well." —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mos., Jan. 5, 2004
BF, I know I read it in HH's Autobiography and I've seen it referred to elsewhere too. I will try to find the reference more accurately, and post ASAP....
When I told Nick about this, he was as moved and impressed as I was when I first read about it. It still gives me goosebumps and brings a lump to my throat.
Ever since I first read it, it has been for me, the one constant reminder of how a 'True' Buddhist should be.... He is therefore also for me, a hero....
BTW... on your GeorgeWBush-isms.... all this from the mouth of one man....?!? Oh, you lucky people! Politics & Comedy all rolled into one!
ajani-mgo, let me explain: The quotation is given in full, below. What Churchill meant is that, even if the Empire and Commonwealth last for this long time, men will still continue to remember this war, and refer to the Battle of Britain as the 'finest hour' of the people who took part. It doesn't refer to the thousand years as being the finest hour.
Winston Churchill was an extremely experienced public speaker and orator. he would not have permitted this glaring error to become part of his speech.
While it is true that he will go down as one of the most famous statesmen this world has ever known, (for whatever reasons), he didn't write all his own speeches, even though he had a hand in them. What it is a less known, is that in his broadcast radio speeches, they often used a sound-alike actor.... he didn't have time to do it all himself.....
A fighter pilot, once in the air and fighting, had a life expectancy of around forty minutes, by the way....
"The Battle of France is over. The Battle of Britain is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilization… The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us. Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this island or lose the war… Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duty, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth lasts for a thousand years, men will still say, 'This was their finest hour".
(Winston Churchill, speaking in the House of Common (11 June 1940.)
Hope this helps you towards your exams....!
I know you'll all laugh at me and think I'm joking, but MacGuyver was my hero for a long, long time. I know he's not even a real person, but I had a serious shortage of role models growing up. I looked up to Mac because he was smart, kind, and funny (not to mention a good looker too
Although there are countless real people in the world that have done some truly amazing things, I have never looked up to one. I figure it was growing up in Detroit with no real friends that pushed my role models into the realm of fantasy unlike normal kids. Instead of admiring Micheal Jordan, Wayne Gretsky, and Jose Canseco I had Bilbo Baggins, Spider Man, and MacGuyver as my all-stars.
Nowadays I would have to say that my mom is for all of the terrible things she has had to endure (including me). Anyone that has lived the monastic life. Alexandra David-Neel. The usual answers of course - doctors, nurses, firefighters, etc... Also, single parents. They are very highly respected by me. Raising a child alone definitely deserves some praise.
Jason
With reference to the above, I seem to remember reading this in HH the DL's autobiography, 'Freedom in Exile'. However, i'm unable at present to lay my hands on my personal copy... I've looked everywhere for it and I can't find it. if anyone else can shed more light on it, I'd be grateful....
Chamberlain wasn't "hated". Even after he resigned as Prime Minister, he was still the leader of the Conservative Party and was Lord President of the Council in Churchill's Cabinet, even though Churchill tried to persuade him to accept the Chancellorship of the Exchequer.
In September 1940, he rsigned and retired to his country home. He did, however, on the orders of the King, continue to receive state papers. He died, at home, on 9 November 1940.
Please do not allow your history books or your teacher to simplify and villify a fine poltician or to over-simplify an extremely complex geo-political situation.
The most democractic country today, I'd daresay is Switzerland.
Although, if you live in a Swiss block of flats (apartment block for USians), it is forbidden to flush the lavatory after 10 p.m.!
I'm not sure that democracy actually works in groups much larger than a few thousand.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southeast/halloffame/historical_figures/johnfrost.shtml
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/citizenship/struggle_democracy/lovell.htm
HH
As a boy, my hero was Douglas Bader, whom I used to see stumping arounf South Kensington. We watched him with awe.
Since then, my p.o.v. has shifted and my heroes include people like Tom Paine, Gerrard Winstanley and other political activists.
Spiritual heroes are so numerous and varied that I realise how widespread across humanity, in all three times, is compassion and how often it incarnates.
"He voted for the French Republic; but argued in the assembly against the execution of Louis XVI, saying that he should instead be exiled to the United States of America: firstly, because of the way royalist France had come to the aid of the American Revolution; and secondly because of a moral objection to capital punishment in general and to revenge killings in particular."
The full article can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine
Hope this helps....
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Point to note here, if you ignore Hilter's killing of the Jews and his racism, he was a rather good leader. But too bad, he sucks for his Final Solution, so I hate him. He had clear policies right from the start, if he introduced his policies via democracy, he wouldn't be so successful. There would be critics and crap. Hilter was right, it doesn't matter whether it was right, it only mattered if it was SUCCESSFUL. And to all who say the success was due to propoganda, I'd say that they were merely advertisements.
If you add a little morals to his seriously-addled brain, I think he'd be a fascinating leader.
P.S. In case the Singapore authorities find and think this post violates the Sedition Act of 1948, I would just like to clear up that Nazism sucks, and I am only stating that he'd be a great leader WITHOUT his killings, not a great leader WITH his killings... No racism here...
"Teacher, the whole lot of history we learn is from a book written by the British. Does it mean that our version is biased? And therefore when we draw out references from the text book, we should also doubt its reliability and write a full page on how credible is that one sentence?"
I surely will get expelled for this. LOL.
I really think you need to read what you have written here, Ajani. Most of it is wrong, the rest is immoral:
* The National Socialist Workers' Party came to power through the ballot box, the democratic way. The strong-arm methods of suppressing dissent were no different from those used at US Conventions such as Chicago.
* The economic growth of the Third Reich was entirely based on war economy and was inappropriate for peacetime which is why it was necessary for the Reich to wage war permanently.
* The Third Reich was not successful: it laste a mere 12 years.
* It is impossible to separate the economic and social policies of the Reich from the extermination policies, as any reading of Mein Kampf makes clear.
No justification can be found for the policies and actions of the Third Rech and should not even be attempted.
Ajani, one must be careful before putting forward views, particularly if they have not been researched properly ie from more than one source. You are of course entitled to your own opinion, however many readers could be forgiven for finding your comments a little ill informed and potentially offensive, not least someone of Jewish extraction.
ABRAHAM.
May I suggest thati should you ever visit europe it would be worth a visit to Germany and ask the local people of all ages what they think about Hilter.
Anyway today was my history exams and I attempted the structured question on Nazism:
2a) Something about how the Nazi Party came to power in 1933... I think I ace this, I memorized this...
2b) "Germany under Hilter was [SOMETHING] fear and repression." Damm I forgot what exactly was the question but it was roughly asking about the life of the German, whether it was leading a fearful life and such...
I said it largely depended on which side of the fence you were on... Then dragged on to a one-page essay on the Aryans, the Jews and the "Undesirables"... Just hope I can pass that question, I think I haven't wrote enough...
Source-based question was on Stalin's industrialisation... Well the last part of that question I said it was a partial success, because Russia was not affected by the Great Depression unlike the Western capitalist countries, it thus meant Russia was self-reliant in a way now... But I did mention the failure to meet with expectations and the many lives lost...
Anyway now I really have got a different impression on Hilter, I thought he was a great economist, but now i think that long-term, his policies were going to fail.
Argon attempted the structured question on UN and the "Three Conferences" - The Yalta, Teheran and Potsdam... I don't know how well he did that but I daresay he will top the class as usual.
True.
But both you and Simon provided very good and informative posts to someone that might not have researched what they were saying. And!, this didn't turn into a flame war! You guys are so good at helping!
I think Ajani's post might have been more centered upon Hitler's ability (whether it was luck or skill) to bring Germany together and turn it into the powerhouse it became for a few, short years. It really was amazing how quickly the impovershed Germany turned into a juggernaut.
Nothing like a dictatorship, cencorship, removal of human rights and slavery to make a country great!
-bf
"No amount of Good sense or Logic can prevail against a sum of Lunacy currently in fashion".
Disraeli.
So are Hilter's achievements pure luck? Or was it partial foresight on his part?
My ex-history teacher once said, "If Hilter and Stalin actually worked together, the flag outside of the classroom in the parade square would be a Nazi flag, and we'd all be doing Nazi salutes every morning." I believe he did have some truth in him.
Anyway would you agree if I said Hilter was a great military tactician a little while for coming out with Blitzkreig? Until he met with the Battle of the Bulge and decided to flirt with Stalin's Russia, that is.
Seriously if Nazism and Communism worked together... I cannot imagine, a world full of colour-blind people who see just red properly...
You would probably be kowtowing to the Rising Sun, Ajani, not the Swastika.
Hitler was a dreadful military tactitician, thank the Powers. It was his interference with the running of the war that was one of the Allies greatest assets. Nothing demonstrates this better than his diversion of frontline troops to his programme of eradication of "undesirables" such as the Jews, Roma, homosexuals and those with mental and physical differences.
There is no possible part of the Third Reich regime that is worthy of admiration.
True, the Third Reich did suck to the core... How about Hilter? You must admit he was considered well, "handsome" to some people at that time... Anyway I read somewhere that there was a uncanny resemblance between Hilter of Germany and Lord Voldemort of the Harry Potter series... Hilter wasn't a real Aryan, my ex-history teacher said before. Even if he was, he did not look like one, with his stupid nose and dumb features. My ex-history teacher himself was, but he descended from the Indian penisula so he didn't look muc like one also, but he's still damm cool...
So Voldemort WAS a HALF-BLOOD and PRETENDED to be PURE-BLOOD,
and Hilter WAS NOT an Aryan and PRETENDED to be an ARYAN.
Was he really an Aryan? My ex-history teacher said he wasn't, and I distrust my current one to ask such questions that'll undoubtedly get me out of the class standing for the whole hour.
Anyway I daresay Stalin was quite a clever guy... Why do I always say stuff get undoubtedly get me scolded? But anyway I think WWII wouldn't have ended so fast without his interference. He WAS the real power. HIS factories could produce stuff undisturbed, and ship them faster than the USA directly.
And well... During my 1st history test of the year the question was discuss if "Stalin was a great leader." and I said yes, dammit... My ex-teacher was like cursing at me whe he returned my paper, said I could have topped the class if I didn't say he was a great leader... He thought that if I could write him so well for being a great guy, I could write better for him being a bad guy. Anyway I passed quite well still, not complaining...
The level of debate has now hit rock bottom. I believe there are are number of people that enjoy this site that feel a need to help you as you seem to have a very poor insight about a number of issue surrounding the west and its history.
Ajani, you need to consider that many people on here are older and excluded myself are "wiser".
Why do you think Harry Potter has anything to do with Hilter or the WWII. Please be mindful that everyone is welcome here. however,I say this again, please be respectful to those who been trying to be helpful. CUT THE CRAP KID.
And sir, you will have to pardon me for my lousy insight because it's damm freaking hard to get a clear view of things when you study nothing but absolute propoganda during history class. Hilter was bad, Hilter was bad, Hilter was bad. Dammed bloody hell clear I know he was bad, but why? Stop giving me crap like anti-Semitism and stuff... I want BOTH SIDES of the view not just one... And no more making Churchill sound like the Saver of Europe when it's kind of obvious it was Stalin...
Sorry if my post was a little fierce, I'm not in an absolutely good mood today, I'll be in an hour's time. Sorry again, dear sir.
Over 20 Million Men, Women and children died as a direct result of WW2. These figures don't include the 6 Million Jews that were exterminated. I am telling you directly that a) This thread is about Heroes and b) Comparing Hitler to an individual from a Harry Potter Book, is not displaying "Maturity" just mind numbing "Stupidity".