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Meditating To Sleep

edited April 2010 in Buddhism Basics
Hello all :) . Recently I've discovered a rather interesting practice, meditating myself to sleep at night, a practice I'd now very much recommend to the rest of you. For some reason in the last week I've FINALLY (after months of struggling) been able to meditate peacefully without it being a big struggle that ends in frustration. few days ago I was meditating at night and was making a lot of progress. Finally I got really tired and accepted, even though I wanted to continue, that I should get to bed. after all, a fatigued mind, at least in my experience, does not accomplish much in meditative practice. So when I went to bed I layed down and just stayed in my meditation, staying both focused and relaxed rather than thinking the usual flood of speedy thoughts I'd usually have. I have to say this was one of the best decisions I ever made.
For years I've had a lot of sleep troubles, drifting in and out of sleep and having really erratic and often distressfull dreams. but when I meditated into sleep, I had the most deep and relaxing sleep ever, and felt much more rested in the morning. this seems to work every time for me. Plus, my dreams actually feel focused and meaningfull and not exhausting, as they used to. anybody else tried this? I think this practice has also helped me in my waking meditations.

Comments

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited October 2005
    Many purists may well tell you that this is not meditation, it is RELAXation... I say do whatever works for you....
    The secret of being able to get to sleep isn't relaxation, it's stopping the babble, the incessant chatter that goes round and round and round.....
    Well done you. I sleep much better too, since I found ways of calming the Mind....
    whatever we can positively do to make ourselves 'better' people is constructive. Sleep deprivation sucks!
  • edited October 2005
    federica wrote:
    Many purists may well tell you that this is not meditation, it is RELAXation... I say do whatever works for you....
    The secret of being able to get to sleep isn't relaxation, it's stopping the babble, the incessant chatter that goes round and round and round.....
    Well done you. I sleep much better too, since I found ways of calming the Mind....
    whatever we can positively do to make ourselves 'better' people is constructu=ive. Sleep deprivation sucks!

    heh, that it really really does. a couple years ago I was so sleep deprived I could barely keep up in school and kept biting my teacher's heads off. only recently have I finally been getting the quality of sleep I need.

    as for all you purists ;) , I suppose meditation is simply the closest word. perhapse the practice could be identified as a branch off meditation, a technique based on meditation.
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited October 2005
    Mister Devious,

    I couldn't do that - I don't think...

    Going to bed to meditate is what I would call "going to sleep". :)

    -bf
  • SimonthepilgrimSimonthepilgrim Veteran
    edited October 2005
    Many years ago, when I was a novice, we were expected to meditate for an hour on 'points' given to us, after supper and a long day of hard work, usually physical. Time after time, I would wake up, cold and stif, having fallen asleep at some point in the exercise.

    In our house, we had a couple of old priests, one of whom was in my care. He was an extraordinary person. 98 years old and still as bright as ever. I talked about my worry about night meditation to him on one of our strolls round the garden. He listened and then suggested that it was a bad idea for me to go to sleep in such an uncomfortable position. Instead, he suggested, I should do all the preliminaries for my meditation then get into bed and continue. If I fell asleep, I should, immediately upon waking, recite the closing prayers. In that way, my sleep, itself, would become part of the meditation process, in the hope and expectation that the Holy Spirit would use it as was best.

    It has 'worked' for me time and against across the years, both when I have found myself exhausted at meditation time and, most significantly, when I have been unable to sleep. In hospital, for example, I find sleeping very difficult and pass the time with my mala. Sometimes I sleep, sometimes I don't but, in either case, I have no reason to get as het up as I used to do when facing insomnia.
  • edited October 2005
    hmm, I just noticed simonthepilgrim, your sig says "god has no religion". I don't know, according to south park god is a buddhist ;) .
  • buddhafootbuddhafoot Veteran
    edited October 2005
    His moniker is Simon...

    But his real name is TIMMEHLIVINLAHHHHG...TIMMEH!

    -bf
  • SimonthepilgrimSimonthepilgrim Veteran
    edited October 2005
    mr-devious wrote:
    hmm, I just noticed simonthepilgrim, your sig says "god has no religion". I don't know, according to south park god is a buddhist ;) .

    I don't know how to tell you this, Mr Devious: South Park is fiction (just like its God). LOL
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited October 2005
    I don't know how to tell you this, Mr Devious: South Park is fiction (just like its God). LOL


    NOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Say it ain't SOOO!!:grin:
  • edited April 2010
    Treebeard wrote: »
    Hello all :) . Recently I've discovered a rather interesting practice, meditating myself to sleep at night, a practice I'd now very much recommend to the rest of you. For some reason in the last week I've FINALLY (after months of struggling) been able to meditate peacefully without it being a big struggle that ends in frustration. few days ago I was meditating at night and was making a lot of progress. Finally I got really tired and accepted, even though I wanted to continue, that I should get to bed. after all, a fatigued mind, at least in my experience, does not accomplish much in meditative practice. So when I went to bed I layed down and just stayed in my meditation, staying both focused and relaxed rather than thinking the usual flood of speedy thoughts I'd usually have. I have to say this was one of the best decisions I ever made.
    For years I've had a lot of sleep troubles, drifting in and out of sleep and having really erratic and often distressfull dreams. but when I meditated into sleep, I had the most deep and relaxing sleep ever, and felt much more rested in the morning. this seems to work every time for me. Plus, my dreams actually feel focused and meaningfull and not exhausting, as they used to. anybody else tried this? I think this practice has also helped me in my waking meditations.


    Hay you have mentioned a good tactic. I am doing a hectic job and for many days i an unable to take a sound sleep. When i go to the bed different questions and queries start to circulate in my mind and i am getting to loose my balance. But now i will experience meditating such like you. I hope this practice will help me a lot.Thanks again!:)
  • edited April 2010
    I've also found using meditation techniques very helpful to get to sleep and to deal with periods of insomnia. I was taught the very, very simple counting the breaths (up to ten then start again) and it has never failed me. I also use it when anxious and when undergoing medical procedures.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited April 2010
    ho hum. You are hasty folk. Look at the recent date of this post. I'm surprised we tree folk had forgotten about it. And south park as fiction is not something that is settled amonsgst the trees. There is still great debate. RESPECT MY AUTHORITATE!
  • edited April 2010
    Hasty? I was sharing with Botham. : )
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited April 2010
    ho hummm. yes botham. yes the trees saw him enter. we were not hasty about judgement. we were undecided. Perhaps a good chap. I didn't see him starting 'fire'... Decent sort. Perhaps he could do with an ent draught? A little curl in the hair and ears?
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