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suffering is impermanent

TheJourneyTheJourney
edited November 2010 in Buddhism Basics
all things are impermanent. This includes suffering, right?

I'm reading "The essential Dalai Lama" and he says "as soon as something comes into being, its cessation has also begun." This means that every act of every thing is moving towards cessation. Isn't the same true for suffering? Suffering comes into existence. It will cease, due to impermanence. We're constantly moving towards that cessation. methinks. this shows the importance of and truth of the philosophy "different strokes for different folks." We're all on our own path to the cessation of suffering.

Comments

  • formermonkJohnformermonkJohn
    edited November 2010
    karmic suffering can last several lifetimes if we don't put a stop to it now, the soul is more permanent than the body, and everything we do positive for our life today will influence the future, not just this lifetime.

    sincerely john
  • TheswingisyellowTheswingisyellow Trying to be open to existence Samsara Veteran
    edited November 2010
    All compounded things are impermanent, that includes suffering. Things arise, stay for a time and then are gone. These events are simply empty arising, they have no inherent nature. One may even ask what has arisen? What has stayed? Has anything really gone away. The wind was flapping a temple flag. Two monks were arguing about it. One said the flag was moving; the other said the wind was moving. Arguing back forth they could come to no agreement. The Sixth Patriarch said, "It is neither the wind nor the flag that is moving. It is your mind that is moving".
    With Metta,
    Todd
  • CloudCloud Veteran
    edited November 2010
    Yes, suffering is impermanent. If it were not, there would be no reason to expect liberation from it. I like the easy questions, some hurt my head. :)
  • TheFoundTheFound
    edited November 2010
    the spirit of the valley never dies..
  • TheJourneyTheJourney
    edited November 2010
    yea. It is pretty easy I guess. Sometimes I post ideas that are unnecessary to post. I enjoy the interaction I guess idk lol
  • CloudCloud Veteran
    edited November 2010
    You never know, it might be that regardless of the question or the answer... something important might be passed along in that interaction you enjoy. Never a stupid question, as they say. :)
  • TheJourneyTheJourney
    edited November 2010
    Cloud wrote: »
    You never know, it might be that regardless of the question or the answer... something important might be passed along in that interaction you enjoy. Never a stupid question, as they say. :)

    Very true. Valuable lessons are learned in the most random situations.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited November 2010
    One lesson I would definitely like people to learn is that this is The Buddhism for Beginners Forum and as such should be used for creating threads, by beginners that will create a purpose or guide for practice.
    This is not the General Banter Forum.
    There are too many meaningless, meandering and frankly, at times, idiotic threads being started here, which do this forum no favours at all.

    Please people:
    if you are going to create threads, make sure that a new member coming to the forum would find it simple to follow, useful in it's discussion and not bewildering, trivial or puerile.
    I'm tired of people using The beginner's forum as a platform or dumping ground for what definitely is, in this case, mere banter to pass the time!
    Sometimes I post ideas that are unnecessary to post. I enjoy the interaction I guess idk lol

    Case in point!

    Please consider your topics carefully, where they go, and why!
  • not1not2not1not2 Veteran
    edited November 2010
    TheJourney wrote: »
    yea. It is pretty easy I guess. Sometimes I post ideas that are unnecessary to post. I enjoy the interaction I guess idk lol

    Talking about any subject can help create more mental connections to those ideas and create a more intuitive sense about it. Talking about even the most highly-discussed or basic questions can be an important part of really integrating this Buddhist knowledge into your understanding of things. This is part of why it's so highly encouraged to have a teacher.
  • YesheDorjeYesheDorje
    edited November 2010
    TheJourney wrote: »
    all things are impermanent. This includes suffering, right?

    I'm reading "The essential Dalai Lama" and he says "as soon as something comes into being, its cessation has also begun." This means that every act of every thing is moving towards cessation. Isn't the same true for suffering? Suffering comes into existence. It will cease, due to impermanence. We're constantly moving towards that cessation. methinks. this shows the importance of and truth of the philosophy "different strokes for different folks." We're all on our own path to the cessation of suffering.

    Yes, suffering is impermanent, but it also continues to re-emerge.
    So the path to the cessation of suffering cannot be taken for granted.
    We must do the work to learn what the causes are, and then the work of bringing those causes to cessation.

    The truth of suffering as I understand it is that we are all mostly on the path of suffering. Often what we do to address our suffering only enforces it.
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