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Karma - in my perception
CSEe
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In Buddha i want to belief that all of us evolved & purified ourself towards Buddha the pure energy . There are no right or wrong , no true or false in Buddha but all depand on self awareness and wisdom . So if we act bad to others this is because we not not hv the wisdom or awareness of our own Buddha so one day , weather in this world or in afterlife , we will regret of our bad action ..... Our regret is karma . We will feel so-so hurt , so-so disappointed with our ownself and will rectify our own action . Karma to me is our regret of our own act , is our teacher for higher wisdom . comment are very welcome .
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Thks for sharing .
Ee
These are some of my thoughts on the matter:
Karma in general means "action", any action concerned with whatever we do, say, or think. However, in Buddhism, the word "karma" is usually used specifically for those actions which spring from mental intent. Our karma, whether "skillfull" or "unskillfull", have their consequences, and those consequences are the "fruits" or results of our karma. The precise working out of the results of kamma is one of the four unconjecturables. So, we cannot explain with any degree of certainty, for example, all the happiness and misery in the world. Often, the question of literal rebirth is woven into this puzzle. Let's not go there...
Perhaps karma and its results can be our "teacher" in the sense that we learn from our mistakes. Perhaps, it is also a way of telling us that we should not blame others for the "suffering" we experience. In the end, different people, different traditions, and cultures will have their own take on karma and its results.
In Buddha I wanted to belief all living / non living thing is equal . In this world human hv religion then we evolved to hv civil law and i do belief the final destination is BUDDHA ...... when one day human evolved closer to this pure energy , there will be no civil law . we will be selfless . All human being will understand and loves each other , love all living and non living un-conditionally. We will realised that our current so call " love" between 2 lovers , or love from a mother to her children is not real , love for own luxury is not real.........then we do not need any civil law to guide us . We will reach a stage closer to Buddha and our energy will be free from all ill feeling .
Thks for sharing .
Ee
~~ speech (right speech)
~~ deed (right action, livelihood)
~~ thought (right mindfulness, concentration, effort, view, understanding)
is the very backbone of the Buddhist path.
I hope I'm am reading you correctly...
" Teaching " to me in Buddha DOES NOT axist since in buddha we could only share our wisdom/awareness and learn from others their wisdom .
Karma is when we realiase our bad act ( maybe because we in higher awareness ) we will sorry of ourself , the regret is karma . So we will rectify it.
I belief learning Buddha is easy when we sincere , we can learn from all living or non living things ......depand on our wisdom to see it . Buddha is in all form of life since I belief Buddha is pure energy .
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Ee
So today I cry during my father funeral because everybody cry and if the whole world celebrate death I think I will even laughing instead of crying like a baby .
Please correct me if i am wrong....
Metta
I like to share these ideas with you:
The Practice of Karma
Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for they become your destiny.
And thus the world rolls on and on.
Your destiny is but the fruits of your karma.
Whatever karma you create, that you shall inherit.
You are the owner of your karma.
You are born of your karma.
You are related to your karma.
You live supported by your karma.
Karma is not something complicated of philosophical.
Karma means watching your body, mouth, and mind.
Trying to keep these three doors as pure as possible,
Is the practice of karma.
Thks Ee
If we aware and understad our action even if we move to higher awareness we will not regret it .
Karma is bad action without knowing our own buddha
http://www.tusitainternational.net/downloads/ebook/
Thanks.
Kamma is not Chi.
Chi - or Qi - is the life force, prana or Dragon's breath that maintains energetic motion within a system. It is moveable, maleable and flows within and around us.
Karma is our own volitional action. We engineer kamma through thinking, speaking or acting out thoughts, words or gestures.
Chi/Qi is the carpenter.
You are the hammer and chisel.
Kamma is what you do to the wood.
Putting it really, really simply.
But really simply.
what we do to the wood, is the consequence.
The beautiful bowl - or pile of useless shavings good only for firefodder - is Vipaka.
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However noble, good and well-thought-out our Kammic intentions are, however positive and fruitful the results - there will always be a "negative fall-out" as part of the consequence.
I have found this to always be so.
Sorry, but it is.
Read carefully:
Karma, is an Intentional and purposeful action.
Vipaka is the result of your intentional and purposeful action.
if you regret BOTH the Karma AND the Vipaka this is a new Karmic action (in thinking) of itself.
What you then do with that regretful active thought, will again, bring you consequence.
Please, whatever it is you "want to believe" can only be corrected through reading, discussion and study.
So we can learn or know Buddha from all source ....there are countless way to learn Buddha...the dog and cat also moving towards Buddha but dont expect them to read right....?
Metta
I do not ascribe to people having Buddha inside as ebnergy.
The Buddha was an ordinary, commonplace and impermanent human being,. so this qualification of transforming him into this amazing 'energy' is hogwash, and I'm not of the same mind as you.
you are making far more of him than is necessary. This is just natural development and altogether common to everyone. You cannot think adult thoughts in a child mind, and you cannot function on child-like thoughts in an adult mind. It's natural progression, conditioning and growth. there's nothing mysic, magical or "energetic" about it. It happens. Get used to it. 'non-living'...? What?? Nope, I don't think this is at all right. I think you need to study Buddhism a little less esoterically and more practically. This energy you mention is not something I can relate to, at all.
I think you are permitting some traditional magical influences you might have been exposed to, to cloud your perception. From my point of view, this is frankly, rubbish.
Sorry to be so blunt, but as for Karma, we are obviously not discussing the same thing at all. Oh for goodness' sake. We have to use the terms You, I me, our, his in common speech. because there is a you, I , me, our and his, in everyday common parlance.
Don't split hairs.
While you are subject to Kamma, 'you' exist, ok?
And I explained kamma perfectly adequately.
Kamma means Volitional Action, perpetrated by you/me/him/her/us/you(pl)/them.
That's it.
Chi has nothing to do with kamma. Chi drives you, not kamma. You drive kamma.
It's a cog in the machinery once removed.
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/Homework/religion/buddhism.htm
Go there.. And under the subheading "What did Buddha Teach?", it is given that it IS life force...
In life we have our own awareness of what is right and what is wrong . Killing other people is wrong but for a soldier in war killing hundred of people is considered as hero...
this is our civil law , previously we had a natural law then evolved into religion to guide us ,telling us what is right and what act is wrong...now in current world we have civil law to guide us ....if you steal..you are in wrong and go to jail .....but in Buddha there are no right or wrong....each of us have our own awareness . Our awareness is different by second...as we change by second....So when you say I was wrong....is actually refering to my awareness is not yet same level as yours...so sorry in advance ...the fact is to share....
It looks like a site written by a 16-year old. It's full of errors.
it's hugely simplistic and as such the detail is lacking.
It's also - wrong.
Some perceptions are so skewed that it's laughable.
Study the suttas on a reliable and academically recommended website. Start with accesstoinsight. That's a better source of information.
slightly.
Religion created civil Law. The legislation found in legal courts evolved and was derived from Religious law. Incorrect.
The Buddha is quite explicit in some matters as to what is Wrong and Right. There is the Eightfold Path, which is Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Livelihood, Right Effort, Right Awareness/Mindfulness and Right Meditation/Concentration.
There are equal "Wrongs". CSEe, I am sharing.
I am not an expert, and am not an authority.
but I hope you are learning.
And I will add that your English is excellent. I wish I could communicate as well in your language, as you can in English.
And I think maybe sometimes, differences in understanding of language, and terminology may also prove to be an obstacle.#
I am learning too.
I guess I will try again to digest your views but for now I think lets move on with our differences.....again thanks for sharing....
We al do the same.
I read every day. I come to this forum every day and listen to other members, and I learn a lot.
But it is important to read much and ask questions. This is how we all have come to where we all are now.
It is difficult, yes, but not impossible.
you come here, you speak with us, you read our replies, and you learn new things. Think about this. It's not different.
But.......in life all of us have awareness to choose....I choose to belief what i think he was....thats why if you read my posting here you could understand why I used to say..." I wanted to belief "....in this case i wanted to belief he said that.....
You are using us as teachers here, but we obtain our information from sources you do not wish to approach.
This is misguided, because our interpretation is not always correct.
Nidish seems to think karma is a life-force.
But it is not, and I am trying to explain his perception is wrong.
How can I do this?
by studying various reputable abd reliable sources of information.
he has one website that explains karma is a life force, which is a wrong view.
I have many websites which explain what karma actually is.
But he has to see this for himself, and maybe check other websites too.
And I'm sorry, but you must do the same.
we are not all of one opinion here, and some opinions conflict.
You must find out for yourself.
The Buddha instructed this.
The Buddha is important to you. Why not do what he recommends, then?
@Federica I second that..
@CSEe As the buddha said, you need to go and look out, for you only know what sails in your boat... So you need that version which would appeal to you.. And what is your language?
sorry In buddha there are no teacher even Siddharta also not our teacher ....we all just sharing....In Buddha I never think anyone including myself or even siddharta is teacher....in school we have teacher but as awareness moves higher and higher our teacher can also become our student ....a kindergarden teacher at one point teach a student but after 20 years the student teach in university.....so awareness grows..
I belief and want to belief that Siddharta did ask us to explore even his own teaching....
As for hundreds of sources you find and you are confident of the information of common sources...maybe that is your limitation to explore or grow to higher awareness...
There was one time ,......people from the whole world believe the world is flat but only a few so call " crazy people" belief the world is oval shape....and now who will be considered crazy?
I find peace in Buddha....yes indeed very important dor me but to follow Siddharta blindly is not even his wish......
I am a chiese that do not write chinese ,I am a chinese born in Malaysia .
Thks
I'm sorry CSEe, now you're just being ridiculous. we have to start somewhere!
Of course the Buddha is our teacher, he was the originator of spreading the Dhamma! You cannot come onto a Buddhist website and state that the Buddha is not our teacher! How would we discuss and learn about Buddhism without him? you might as well call it 'CSEeism'... because what you are proposing is both singularly individual - and ludicrous. well you'd better think again.
The suttas, his teachings and his directive example are what we follow. This is completely different. A kindergarten teacher is qualified to teach at kindergarten level only. A University lecturer is qualified to teach at University level only. They have fixed duties within certain limitations.
The Buddha was a teacher who taught his followers the perennial and universal Truth of Suffering, and the cessation of Suffering. his teachings span the life of a person, so the comparison you are making is pointless. Really? And how do you propose to do that, if you refuse to read his teachings, or what other Buddhist teachers have written? if one person tells you something, and 999 other people tell you the opposite, then the 999 people are more likely to be correct. When you find many sources saying the same thing, then you can reliably begin to see that perhaps they are accurate. This is how you find what is accurate and what is not. You test the words for yourself, by living the experiences that following the words brings to you. If you follow a teaching and it is an incorrect teaching, more confusion will follow.
I perceive you are very confused. if you refuse to read and research, your knowledge is very limited, there is much ignorance and yolu are entirely mistaken. And how do you know the world is round, and that it is a mistake to think it is flat? Where did you learn this? And how? Nobody is asking you to follow blindly. But what we are saying is that following the method you use, is insufficient, misguided and leads to many mistakes.
you have to study.
Otherwise, we are all just wasting our time with you.
The Buddha is and was a "title" meaning "the awakened". It would seem that the OP points to "Buddha Nature" with this metaphor of energy.
Fede, are you propounding Buddha Nature as hogwash and rubbish? Actually, Thich Nhat Hanh teaches that rubbish has Buddha Nature too, but I digress. Do you have Buddha Nature? Inside? Around? On the shelf? In a basket?.....
Mahayana seems to overlook this factor.
Also, read his comment in full, with regard to non-living. :wtf:
And with all due respect to TNH, (whom I have had the privilege of seeing very close up, in a talk he gave at a Quaker Hall in London) I don't share his view either.
'Buddha Nature'
Not my scene.