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ALL SUFFERING ENDS WHEN MR SIDDHARTA FOUND BUDDHA
CSEe
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I want to belief that , Mr Siddharta before he found Buddha suffers from fear of old age , sickness and death like most of the people in cuurent world but AFTER he found the energy and named it as BUDDHA ... he realise that old age , sickness , birth and death is part of purification process so is natural . We " suffer" the feeling of fear of old age , sick and death because we do not understand Buddha and greedy . We are greedy to stay young , greedy to stay healthy and greedy to remain alive . We forgot abt our purification process but was pulled into material world . So after Mr Siddharta found Buddha..... All suffering of old age , sickness or death SHOULD END . I belief because he WAS WRONGLY QUOTED that caused this suffering to continue . If his follower really understand his teaching.... there are no more suffering from fear of old age , sickness or death . Human are happy to get old , happy even got cancer and calebrate funeral of their children.
But sad.....he was wrongly quoted. I belief if he was still alive today.... he will be very dissapointed with us all of us.
But sad.....he was wrongly quoted. I belief if he was still alive today.... he will be very dissapointed with us all of us.
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Thks for sharing
Ee
Thks
Ee
frustrating, buddhism isn't about magic it's about real things, suffering, it's a psychology not a Harry Potter book
as for the energy i think I had explained .
I belief Mr Siddharta was wrongly quoted about suffering , yes he did suffer from fear of old,sick and death BEFORE he found Buddha but after he found Buddha ... there are no more suffering.... he understand that but now billions of people still do not understand....as for me I understanmd but when everybody cry , I also cry , when every body fear-I also fear.... I need support ok...
all of its teachings seem to a require a belief in all kinds of junk, theravada is a workable psychology, an actual method for achieving happiness.
ever listened to Thanissaro's audio talk on the internet where he talks about psychic messages from a teacher causing the meditator to be full of fear?
theravada has as many nutters as any other form of buddhism
as thanissaro attempts to tap into the Buddhist market, his talks become spookier & more bizzare
considered learning 'Isaan' instead of Thai?
then you can chat with the village people about ghosts, magic and stuff
What exactly is the end of suffering?
Like I have heard Nibbana is the end of suffering.
But Thanissaro has said: "In short, the five clinging-aggregates are stressful."
What are these "clinging-aggregrates"? How do they cling? For example, how does the body cling? How do feelings cling? How do I stop the body from clinging once I discover how it actually clings?
Thanissaro has said: "All phenomena have Unbinding [Nibbana] as their final end.'
So how does a block of concrete have Nibbana as its final end? Can a block of concrete end suffering?
:-/ Arahant
Also, the Dhamma states: "Sabbe dhamma anatta ti". All things whatsover are not-self.
But Thanissaro has said Nibbana is not included in "sabbe dhamma".
So, is Thanissaro saying Nibbana is 'self'?
:-/
Layperson is not a monk.
I wanted to belief Siddharta's wishes is sincere and I also choose to belief that he said " Believe nothing no matter wht you read or hear or who hv said it or even if i hv said it unless it agree with yr own reason and common sense" and " strive for yr own liberation with diligence" this two quotes always make me respect him and you can say fall in love with him ( ... i heard he is very handsome but I am not gay ok ) maybe is his wish for us to discuss , to search , to debate and to change .....maybe is NOT his wish for us to follow him , the way he speak , he way he walk , he way he dress up or even the way he think.... he hv a wisdom so-so high to allow room to change.....but why we still emmmmmmmmmm
As you probably know a lot of Buddhism teachings (or not-teachings, whichever you prefer) goes lost when using words. If you don't use correct punctuation and start using capital letters mid sentence, even more goes lost. This is (a part of) why there's people reacting very confused to your posts. I know you're not English (neither am I) but please try to do your best with punctuation, spelling and grammar. Thanks.
Thks alot .......
Those who wish to comment in his threads should, IMHO, exercise patience in responding to any of his posts. Comments like "don't do shrooms" or "this thread is a total crap" is unwarranted. BTW, Supertramp's advice is a reasonable one. Maybe CSEe can try to finish his statements more "fully" so we can better comprehend what he is saying. Ok, feel free to have a go at me....
Since no one surround me to discuss abt this topic..I force myself to think each and every day....there was a time when I was 14 years old I got depression and insomia . I fear to even close my eyes at night. But at 18 years old....suddenly I have a strange feeling towards a girl in my class....I so call like her alot...and I cancel offer to hv a good job just to be close to her. Further to understanding this feeling so call " love" leads me to know a kind of energy inside us .
further to that awareness....I found Buddha. Since then I hv my perception of Buddha and understand Buddha from my angle .
Last year... I started to know the wonderfull world of internat and try to read abt Siddharta and buddha .
From the webside or even books...I found it very hard to start . I never read more then 50 words in all the so call Buddha books....is so diificult and sorry in advance....so boring .
My purpose here is to learn more on afterlife and Buddha so that give me the confident for me to face my coffin ....so that I could confidently explain to my daughter ...so that when one day I die she will not suffer ..so that one day if her children die she will not suffer....that is my sincere aim...I know is seems selfish but thats me ok in my own awareness at this time....
As far as afterlife goes (as you mentioned it), I am open to the idea but won't live my life aimed towards it. I want to live my life as if this is "all" there is, I don't understand why people want more than this, because "this" is already more than we can comprehend. It's just your choice to how much of "all this" you let in.
edit: I hope I don't come over as arrogant or wanting to "teach" you about English here, I do it with the most sincere wish to help you on this forum. But also try not to use too many abbreviations (yr instead of your, abt instead of about), and try to use the comma "," instead of "....". This will also make it easier for people to read your posts. Anyway, again, hope I'm not critisizing too much.
The reason why I want to belief in Buddha - teaching is not axist is because in Buddha all energy is equal..in life ,yes we hv teacher like in school ofcause I hv teacher....in sport i hv a Teacher but we call him trainer.....but In Buddism there are no relationship , no you or me , no culture , no belief , no one is higher then other including Siddharta .
In Buddha.....our views cannot be associated with in life since our current life is too far from Buddha . For example , I got sick and see a doctor....the doctor say ok Mr Ee sorry to tell you that you have cancer in your brain ...the virus is attacking your cell and you will be sick and die soon ok....now pay this bill first before you die...
But in Buddha....I got sick not because of cancer virus....I got sick because sickness is part of the purification process and the virus is not the cause but only a factor........is totally different view there....
I just hope I am calm like now when in reality
http://viewonbuddhism.org/4_noble_truths.html
I meant that Shakyamuni himself taught that there are 4 things in life that are true. They are called the "4 Noble Truths". This was one of the first things that he taught after getting his enlightenment.
Simple version:
1. Life means suffering.
2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
4. This is the path to the cessation of suffering.
More detailed version:
1: Sariputta: "Now what, friends, is the noble truth of stress? Birth is stressful, aging is stressful, death is stressful; sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair are stressful; not getting what is wanted is stressful. In short, the five clinging-aggregates are stressful.
2. "Now what is the noble truth of the origination of stress? The craving that makes for further becoming — accompanied by passion & delight, relishing now here & now there — i.e., craving for sensuality, craving for becoming, craving for non-becoming...
3. And what is the noble truth of the cessation of stress? The remainderless fading & cessation, renunciation, relinquishment, release, & letting go of that very craving."
4. "And what is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision, producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding? Precisely this Noble Eightfold Path: right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. This is the middle way realized by the Tathagata that — producing vision, producing knowledge — leads to calm, to direct knowledge, to self-awakening, to Unbinding."
"samsara ni rei, nirvana ni rei" (sanskrit and japanese)
greetings to samsara: left hand resting;
greetings to nirvana: right hand resting;
unite thumbs.
if you and your loved ones produce good karma,
you and your loved ones will have a good rebirth... with less suffering.