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Robina Courtin, TB nun is an extremist?
hermitwin
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Source: Robina Courtin Wikipedia Page
When the Dalai Lama teaches notions from Tibetan Buddhism, he generally states they are from "Tibetan" Buddhism.
But Robina learns Tibetan Buddhism and then teaches The Buddha taught those things that are unique to Tibetan Buddhism.
Many men (and women) are impressed by a forceful woman. Personally, as an Aussie, I like firm women but not aggressive borish Aussies who sound like they are a footy coach.
What's aggressive about her? This is what women teachers sound like, in my limited experience, except her ideas seem...different.
Okay... just saying DD that's so completely off skilter. Here you can see that she repeatedly says "and this up to interpretation" and "if you learn something the buddha said, but you disagree with it, then dismiss it." Also "it's logical, put on your logic caps and take it thoughtfully rather than with trust."
I would agree that she is pretty straightforward and she states things as fact, but she states that it is up to YOU to interpret her words true or false. I fail to see what is dogmatic about that.
You post a video in which you do not back yourself up, you post this argument with any solid proof, and thus I think you need to develop this a little more before you label her a boring aussie who sounds like a fooshie coach (whatever that is).
Also I am quite curious as to why this question is even posed? Sure she founded a prison system in which she and her staff teach meditation... but what is wrong with simple offerings of rehabilitation and a way for the angry to ease themselves and confront their emotions? I fail to see how if this is extreme this is bad? DD you say this so harshly and yet she obviously is human and hence if she has mistakes in her lectures albeit, it is up to YOU again, to decide the validity and to trust her words or not. I however think that a lot of her teachings are straight on and she presents it in such a logical manner.
DD, show me what the buddha did and did not say. Robina poses what the buddha, as CW said, WOULD have said, and sure that is opinion (obviously), it also puts the buddha's words more into today's context. From what I listened to from the video posted. there was no direct misrepresentation of the buddha's words, but rather interpretation further into how we see ourselves and perceive our mind today
If you wish to blindly believe the numerous irrational notions asserted by Robina, such as the mind having no relationship to the body, then that is your choice.
The body has a nervous system. When a toe is stubbed, it hurts. This shows the mind is related to the body.
When teenagers have physical & hormonal changes in puberty, the minds become preoccupied with sexual things. This shows the mind is related to the body.
In brief, Robina has no idea about what she is talking about and is merely parroting Tibetan teachings about karma & rebirth.
As Robina said, I may reject what she said. At least here, we can agree.
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In brief, Robina has no idea about what she is talking about and is merely parroting Tibetan teachings about karma & rebirth".
You miss the whole point of Buddhism here.
Perhaps such statement says more about you than about Robina.
If you can find me a reported teaching of the Lord Buddha, which states the whole point of Buddhism is karma & rebirth, then I may possibly have some regard for what you appear to be asserting.
Perhaps your statements says the same about you as they do for Robina. That is, parroting unverified speculative views designed to keep people moral.
In brief, most of what Robina was asserting cannot be verified. It is blind faith.
If you believe the whole point of Buddhism is blind faith, you miss the whole point of Buddhism here.
:-/
What I did question is your claim that Robina 'had no idea about what she is talking'.
But Robina is ranting on about the mind having no connection to the body and some speculative view about an unending stream of consciousness.
i don't mean to attack you DD, but rather, i ask a favor. please investigate your comments and think about why you feel the way you do about her. outright sexism is mostly disparaged these days, but the inner beliefs that people seem to hold to about what is appropriate for gender roles is mostly unacknowledged. the very fact that we never seem to talk or notice it on this very minute scale is the reason that it has persisted so long.
You might like to analyse if the mind is located in your big toe, or left ear lobe. If not there, then where is it located? If you go searching for it you will not find it.
On the other hand you might follow your own stream of consciousness. If you were particularly alert you might trace back everything that has passed through your mind in the last hour. Try going back a day or two - or years. Something is happening here that seems continuous - that one moment of thought is immediately followed by another, and another - so fast that we are barely aware of them. It is only when we become aware of our ceaseless activity that we became aware of the mind.
But no one can convince you of any of this you - you have to do that yourself - as the Buddha suggested.
DD said...
"If you believe the whole point of Buddhism is karma & rebirth, you miss the whole point of Buddhism
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In brief, most of what Robina was asserting cannot be verified. It is blind faith. "
I feel there is much to be learned from the various schools of Buddhism. To so completely discard all the teachings of a particular point of view in the name of your aversion strikes me as unwise. I personally do not accept all of her teachings but have nonetheless found many pearls of wisdom.
Consciousness is sense awareness. That is all. What you are referring to is memory.
It is impossible to trace back everything the mind was conscious of in the last hour. All one can trace back are those sensory (conscious) experiences that impinged upon the memory.
As I said, what you & Robina are talking about has nothing to do with reality or the Buddha.
My mind's last arising of sense consciousness has ceased forever.
:eek2:
Karma is a mere lesson. A karmic lesson can last a mere moment and, if learned fully, the karma ends forever.
The Buddha was interested in beings ending karma rather than drowning in it.
Kind regards
Definately !
You label Robina as 'ranting'.
And then you consciously look for texts to support such labelling.
So I will leave you to your choices.
The five aggregates are empty (sunnata).
When the five aggregates (including labelling) function free from 'self-view', good & bad karma end.
"Choices": as though what you have said warrants consideration.
Your views are confused, lost in words, lost in doctrine, lost in brainwashing, not coming from any experience of right liberation.
The end of labelling is not Nirvana.
:-/