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What is the difference between Rebirth n Reincarnation?

hermitwinhermitwin Veteran
edited March 2011 in Philosophy
What is the difference between Rebirth n Reincarnation?

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  • TalismanTalisman Veteran
    here we go again!!!
  • SherabDorjeSherabDorje
    Please use the search function and search the site for previous threads on this topic.

    All the best to you.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited March 2011
    The Buddha's teachings about 'rebirth' have a moral emphasis. They reflect psychological karmic law, namely, action & result.

    Where as reincarnation is pure metaphysics, such as in the Bhagavad Gita, which states the soul cannot be cut because it simply finds a new body, therefore one should not be concerned about dying in war.

    Kind regards

    :)
    And what is the right view that has effluents, sides with merit & results in acquisitions?

    There are fruits & results of good & bad actions. There is this world & the other worlds.

    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.117.than.html

    Para loka = 'other world' and not 'next world'
    And what is the diversity in kamma? There is kamma to be experienced in hell, kamma to be experienced in the realm of common animals, kamma to be experienced in the realm of the hungry shades, kamma to be experienced in the human world, kamma to be experienced in the world of the devas. This is called the diversity in kamma.

    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an06/an06.063.than.html
  • compassionate_warriorcompassionate_warrior Veteran
    Ada_B gave her perspective recently on the "New Buddhist? Or Something Else? " thread, on page two of the "All Discussions" list.
  • compassionate_warriorcompassionate_warrior Veteran

    Where as reincarnation is pure meta=physics, such as in the Bhagavad Gita, which states the soul cannot be cut because it simply finds a new body,
    That's the Hindu concept of reincarnation. The Buddhist concept doesn't acknowledge the existence of a soul. Rather, it discusses "mind" or "consciousness" that carries over to a new body.

  • hermitwinhermitwin Veteran
    DD, no disrespect intended, but is that your opinion or is there some consensus on that?
  • hermitwinhermitwin Veteran
    As far as I know the 2 words are used interchangeably and that is how I interpret it.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited March 2011
    DD, no disrespect intended, but is that your opinion or is there some consensus on that?
    Lol...if you are looking for consensus, why respond to your posts?

    "Consensus" is for sheep rather than for Buddhist aspirants.

    Please regard what the Buddha had to say.

    All the best

    :)

  • SherabDorjeSherabDorje
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  • hermitwinhermitwin Veteran
    DD, For the this forum, I mean. Do most members make that distinction here?
  • compassionate_warriorcompassionate_warrior Veteran
    edited March 2011

    Please regard what the Buddha had to say.
    Uh-oh! And awaaaay we go! :banghead:

    @ hermitwin, some do, some don't.
  • TalismanTalisman Veteran
    My understanding of Rebirth has evolved as my practice and study have improved. This concept is not something that can be so easily explained by words or concepts. Discover what Rebirth means for yourself and how it relates to your path, the teachings, and the nature of suffering.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited March 2011
    The Buddhist concept doesn't acknowledge the existence of a soul. Rather, it discusses "mind" or "consciousness" that carries over to a new body.
    CW

    You seem to be talking about "Tibetan" concepts rather than the Buddha's concepts.

    The Buddha did not teach consciousness is reborn. The Buddha rebuked the Bhikkhu Sati heavily for asserting the Buddha taught this (see MN 38).

    The Buddha taught beings are reborn according to the karma (actions). This is Buddhism.

    Best wishes with your Tibetan religion

    And Jason, best wishes with your Singalese Buddhaghosa Brahmin religion

    :lol:
  • hermitwinhermitwin Veteran
    I searche for reincarnation but didnt find any recent results.
    Gimme the link.
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    some do, some don't.
    That is obvious. Some wish to call themselves "Buddhists" but don't listen to the Buddha. Instead, they are stuck on their smiling gurus, like children to parents.

    :lol:
  • compassionate_warriorcompassionate_warrior Veteran
    edited March 2011
    The Buddha taught different things to different people.
    Hermitwin, if you look up past threads on this topic, you'll find the relevant suttric quotes supporting all arguments. Feel free to share with us /after/ you've done the research. You'd be doing us a big favor, by sparing us further condescension and rudeness from DD. If the search function doesn't work, I'm told you can find those threads via Google. Good luck.
  • hermitwinhermitwin Veteran
    How many people believe that you can be born as a hungry ghost?
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    I searche for reincarnation but didnt find any recent results. Gimme the link.
    The Buddha taught about "rebirth" dude. Stop wasting your time.

    But the Tibetans teach about "reincarnation".

    :lol:
  • DhammaDhatuDhammaDhatu Veteran
    edited March 2011
    The Buddha taught different things to different people.
    The Buddha did not teach "reincarnation". He taught "rebirth" or "reappearance"or "spontaneous birth" (of the results of karma)

    :sawed:
  • hermitwinhermitwin Veteran
    I already have my opinion as I read quite extensively but I am always interested
    to know what other members think. Both out of curiosity and to reexamine my own interpretation.
  • SherabDorjeSherabDorje
    http://newbuddhist.com/discussion/341/rebirth-vs.-reincarnation/p1

    There's your link. PLEASE let's not do this again...
  • compassionate_warriorcompassionate_warrior Veteran
    edited March 2011
    Hermit, unfortunately, your question comes at a time when many members have OD'ed on this topic. Curiously, it tends to bring out the worst in some members, who forget their Buddhist practice and adopt a judgmental or condescending tone toward others in stating their view. So...you might have to answer your own question by doing a bit of research. Try looking the threads up on Google. And you can find Ada-B's "New Buddhist? Or..." thread listed under "All Discussions", pg. 2.
  • hermitwinhermitwin Veteran
    In addiction, you recover when you hit rock bottom.
  • hermitwinhermitwin Veteran
    thanks for the link
  • SherabDorjeSherabDorje
    thanks for the link
    You're welcome. If you Google "new buddhist reincarnation" you'll get them all.
  • VictoriousVictorious Grim Veteran
    What is the difference between Rebirth n Reincarnation?
    The spelling?

  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited March 2011
    I'm preemptively putting this horse out of its misery.

    Oh, and nice attempt at baiting me in a thread I'm not even participating in.
    And Jason, best wishes with your Singalese Buddhaghosa Brahmin religion
    -5 rep. +1 troll.
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