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Dozens killed in Afghanistan because a "preacher" in Florida burned a Qur'an
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And people wonder why I grew disillusioned with organized religion?
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With love and inarticultion, Jen
(Thank you, Vajraheart, for the usual articulate response and explanation.)
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Is there a link to the article referenced in the OP?
[http://www.jannah.org/qurantrans/]
Alright, the Quran quite redundantly makes clear that Allah does not like people who do not believe in him. Still, the people killed were not at war with the people who killed them as far as i understand. Thus religion's got nothing to do with it as the above statement shows what they did was not in accord with it.
In the end, does our belief serve the greater good of all? Does it embellish compassion and make people aware of it in themselves or does it extinguish it? This is a constant inner debate that will lead one deeper and deeper past the layers of false self clinging and personal dogmas which don't necessarily have to be religious to be a dogma. We are all uptight, or knotted up in one way or another concerning one or another concept of ourself and life. It's just that people like this preacher in Florida and the people in Afghanistan who reacted are projecting these knots in their own heart onto their chosen faith and using it as an excuse to express their own personal ignorance that might not have anything to do with religion deep within their self clinging tendencies.
This is what makes Buddhism as a whole better, in my opinion, not as a dogma, but just as a deeply advanced universal psychology that is well explained from the very beginning by the Buddha himself.
I mean... we are all Buddhists for a reason, so we can feel safe saying that to each other... right?
This is also why I'm a Buddhist.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42401504/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/
Its really the most unusual thing in the world that of all religions those two would be most regarded as speaking against each other, there are just so many similarities all around...
Double yup. The US can't seem to keep it's nose out.
Barra, I don't "get" what you are referring to.
I have known quite a few Muslims in my time and they are simply human with all the failings that comes with it.
One town that I regularly cycle through is divided though. Much of the town is full of 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation Pakistani's. They are generally poor. In other parts of the town it is full of disaffected white under educated people. Obesity, smoking and drinking is common. The people are poor. There is resentment between the seperate communities..... BNP membership is common, there is religious funmementalism...... there is poverty. There are lots of community spirited people too though but that is less reported.
Much of the western media is run by anti-islamic right-wing types who fuel division.
I dont know what im trying to say, other than that it is unhelpful to label ourselves too closely with our religious belief as it often leads to division.
War, fundamentalism, revenge.
Bad bad bad.
One misguided idiot burns a book and , according to you , a slaughter occurred as retribution. All you can think to comment is that you feel bad for ' people suffering from his actions"? So the book burner caused the murders?
Come on friend...
I am not requires to meet your comment requirements. I dont recall calling HIM a murderer. Perhaps it had direct correlation perhaps not. I was replying o the OP based on what they posted. I chose not to delve into it further because personally the news is not always reliable and watching it and feeling awful serves no purpose. I could DO something to help i would. But sitting on my couch, with a general distaste for my country won't help anyone.
With love, Jen
However, organized religion also brings a lot of good. Maybe it's not organized religion, it's just too much attachment to one's opinions. Like when PETA gets out of control, because they are so attached to their perspectives, or when political people get into fiery mudslinging because of strong attachments to their opinions.
Any time anyone starts to think they "are what they think", and what they think is "ultimate truth" you will find people willing to aggressively defend themselves/their beliefs. Some are even willing to die for what they believe to be "ultimate truth". When we are convinced that we are right we become susceptible to ignorance. We risk shutting off our listening ears. This happens even outside of religious arenas.
First, after reading the preacher's own words, it's obvious to me he's a loudmouthed idiot without a clue. Everyone knows one, at the workplace or especially hanging out in bars. Usually bigots or racists although keeps telling you "I'm not a..." Has the answers to what's wrong with the world and doesn't have the intelligence or education to understand his answers will only kill people and make it worse. Maybe even proud of his ignorance. So this one gathered a small group of intolerant like minded people together and called it a church. The world is full of people like this. Morons with a microphone. Heck, we've even elected some of them to congress.
But in our country, under our remaining freedoms that the political idiots have yet to strip from us, people have the right to exercise their idiotness. He has the right to be stupid. It is not his fault that the UN workers were killed. That is the fault of the people who did the killing. Just stop and think for a moment about what it takes to get someone to murder.
People don't kill because someone they never heard of before burns a book halfway around the world. A million Muslims in America know the difference between right and wrong, and didn't run out and kill the first preacher they could find. The UN workers were killed because a group of people over there are filled with hatred and anger and looking for an excuse to lash out. It really didn't have anything to do with a burnt Koran.
But the preacher is still a loudmouth idiot. He thinks America should just declare war on Islam, round up and blow away the heathens, according to his words. He feels bad about the innocent UN bystanders that got killed, but says it's not his responsibility. And he says that without a clue as to how ironic that makes it, when he tries to say the problem is the religious extremists in the world "over there". But this is America. Where even the loudmouth idiots have rights.