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In my view he did it to himself with his terribly inflated ego and ignoring Buddhist Precepts. To me, especially since it fits the Karma-as-emotional view of Karma, it's classic Karma.
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federicaSeeker of the clear blue sky...Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubtModerator
Lets just say I think he's paying too much attention to the attachments, without plugging in the vaccuum cleaner and sucking up his dirty work....
With so much insistence from his father, I sort of see him as being similar to the offspring of a devoted minister ... gotta test waters that are not so divine.
He does not learn from his lessons and continues to harm people with his choices. Supposedly, his latest relationship ended recently after he cheated again. For many pro sports people, their sports are every bit as much a distraction from their problems as drugs are for other people.
@karasti said:
He does not learn from his lessons and continues to harm people with his choices. Supposedly, his latest relationship ended recently after he cheated again. For many pro sports people, their sports are every bit as much a distraction from their problems as drugs are for other people.
Good observation.
As a golf fan, it wasn't the cheating that bothered me so much as it was being such a fake. Kinda goes along with what I feel about politicians -- it's often not so much the initial act that bothers many Americans, as it is the coverup.
I don't think people are meant to be under that kind of pressure. Few people can take it for any length of time, there is always an image to keep up, and no one is perfect. But having your personal mistakes broadcast around the world would be pretty tough to take, too. Between super stardom and the lack of privacy I don't think most people are capable of managing it. They break, and then their brokenness is a part of world wide criticism. I don't think most of them know how to be who they are, the expectations placed on them by family and the "adoring public" makes that pretty difficult, I would imagine. We demand a lot from those people who provide us with entertainment that distracts us from our own problems, and place expectations that they have to be perfect and never have problems of their own. Once they start to have problems, our own problems become apparent again because we can't stay lost in their perfect life/world anymore.
Here's a man who hired a professional photographer to take "family photos" for online publication. The photos intentionally projected that Tiger was a wonderfully loving father and husband. And they came out just shortly before the shit hit the fan blowing that whole fake persona.
Frankly, it's rare that I see pro sports players or even movie stars going to that extent to project a family image.
Sure, most of us try to project our best side to others and hide our darker sides. But he was doing it to the extreme for one purpose -- his $600,000,000 net worth.
I think you make a good point, @Karasti, about the pressures of fame, but in a sense, that gets right back to the karma issue. On the way up, stars (whether sports or Hollywood types) cultivate it -- they're publicity hogs. And then when get to that point where they don't need the constant photographers and press, they think they can simply flip a switch and not get followed everywhere by the paparazzi, etc. And that's when I think karma jumps in...because at a very, very basic level I see karma as that old saying, "You made your bed, now lay in it." We've seen it with stars from Tom Cruise to Chris Brown, who, after they cultivate the star-making media for years, then get their real stories plastered all over the print and digital medias.
I just shook my head the other day over the Dennis Hastert situation, when he had the audacity to say, "I'm a victim here, too." I wished I could have shaken him by the shoulders and said, "You're just living your karma!"
@vinlyn said:
...I wished I could have shaken him by the shoulders and said, "You're just living your karma!"
If there is interconnectedness then we're travelling on the journey together? Challenging to see where one karma ends and another begins.
I say this as I see equal culpability resting with a society whose constituents and mechanisms promote such avenues to exploit.
I'm not sure how I'd react to the kind of pressure and temptation this sort of life dumps on a person when I was younger, but from past experience probably not very well. For someone like Tiger Woods, his entire life has become his job. If my boss wants to mess around on his wife and they end up in divorce court, nobody cares as long as he shows up and does his job. That's not the same world Tiger Woods lives in, is it?
But if being one of the best means always playing as good as the last time, or better? Or that movie needs to be successful like the last one, or people will immediately start talking about how your career is over? What amazes me is that younger people in that position aren't even more screwed up in their lives than they are. When you hear interviews from the stars who seem to have it together, there is usually someone like parents they care about and are close to, to help keep them grounded.
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federicaSeeker of the clear blue sky...Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubtModerator
Tiger had another very bad day at the tournament yesterday, although not quite as bad. In one story covering it, they had a pic of Tiger without his hat. All I could think of was -- old man. Of course, that happens to all of us, or for some of us, has already happened. But I imagine it is tough on him.
Chris Kluwe talked about this in his book a bit, it was a good read. He said something about how horrific that sort of entertainment industry is for society and the distraction it causes, and that he wishes for nothing more than society to find something worth spending their time on and put him (he played in NFL at the time) out of a job. Of course, he doesn't have a job now regardless, lol, but I think he'd make a great tv show host!
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Lets just say I think he's paying too much attention to the attachments, without plugging in the vaccuum cleaner and sucking up his dirty work....
With so much insistence from his father, I sort of see him as being similar to the offspring of a devoted minister ... gotta test waters that are not so divine.
He does not learn from his lessons and continues to harm people with his choices. Supposedly, his latest relationship ended recently after he cheated again. For many pro sports people, their sports are every bit as much a distraction from their problems as drugs are for other people.
Good observation.
As a golf fan, it wasn't the cheating that bothered me so much as it was being such a fake. Kinda goes along with what I feel about politicians -- it's often not so much the initial act that bothers many Americans, as it is the coverup.
I don't think people are meant to be under that kind of pressure. Few people can take it for any length of time, there is always an image to keep up, and no one is perfect. But having your personal mistakes broadcast around the world would be pretty tough to take, too. Between super stardom and the lack of privacy I don't think most people are capable of managing it. They break, and then their brokenness is a part of world wide criticism. I don't think most of them know how to be who they are, the expectations placed on them by family and the "adoring public" makes that pretty difficult, I would imagine. We demand a lot from those people who provide us with entertainment that distracts us from our own problems, and place expectations that they have to be perfect and never have problems of their own. Once they start to have problems, our own problems become apparent again because we can't stay lost in their perfect life/world anymore.
Here's what crossed the line for me.
Here's a man who hired a professional photographer to take "family photos" for online publication. The photos intentionally projected that Tiger was a wonderfully loving father and husband. And they came out just shortly before the shit hit the fan blowing that whole fake persona.
Frankly, it's rare that I see pro sports players or even movie stars going to that extent to project a family image.
Sure, most of us try to project our best side to others and hide our darker sides. But he was doing it to the extreme for one purpose -- his $600,000,000 net worth.
I think you make a good point, @Karasti, about the pressures of fame, but in a sense, that gets right back to the karma issue. On the way up, stars (whether sports or Hollywood types) cultivate it -- they're publicity hogs. And then when get to that point where they don't need the constant photographers and press, they think they can simply flip a switch and not get followed everywhere by the paparazzi, etc. And that's when I think karma jumps in...because at a very, very basic level I see karma as that old saying, "You made your bed, now lay in it." We've seen it with stars from Tom Cruise to Chris Brown, who, after they cultivate the star-making media for years, then get their real stories plastered all over the print and digital medias.
I just shook my head the other day over the Dennis Hastert situation, when he had the audacity to say, "I'm a victim here, too." I wished I could have shaken him by the shoulders and said, "You're just living your karma!"
We are all living our karma, in fact if one thinks about it...we are nothing but karma in motion ....
If there is interconnectedness then we're travelling on the journey together? Challenging to see where one karma ends and another begins.
I say this as I see equal culpability resting with a society whose constituents and mechanisms promote such avenues to exploit.
Looks like he had a bad day at the office.
I'm not sure how I'd react to the kind of pressure and temptation this sort of life dumps on a person when I was younger, but from past experience probably not very well. For someone like Tiger Woods, his entire life has become his job. If my boss wants to mess around on his wife and they end up in divorce court, nobody cares as long as he shows up and does his job. That's not the same world Tiger Woods lives in, is it?
But if being one of the best means always playing as good as the last time, or better? Or that movie needs to be successful like the last one, or people will immediately start talking about how your career is over? What amazes me is that younger people in that position aren't even more screwed up in their lives than they are. When you hear interviews from the stars who seem to have it together, there is usually someone like parents they care about and are close to, to help keep them grounded.
Yeah, Tiger, join the club.....
Tiger had another very bad day at the tournament yesterday, although not quite as bad. In one story covering it, they had a pic of Tiger without his hat. All I could think of was -- old man. Of course, that happens to all of us, or for some of us, has already happened. But I imagine it is tough on him.
Chris Kluwe talked about this in his book a bit, it was a good read. He said something about how horrific that sort of entertainment industry is for society and the distraction it causes, and that he wishes for nothing more than society to find something worth spending their time on and put him (he played in NFL at the time) out of a job. Of course, he doesn't have a job now regardless, lol, but I think he'd make a great tv show host!
Chris' Twitter is pretty amazing. He's very insightful and nerdy.