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Homeopathic remedies: fact or fraud?
Daozen
Veteran
By my understanding, homeopathic remedies are basically water due to severe dilution of the original ingredient.
Given that, how can it work beyond the placebo effect?
It's kind of alarming to me how many people seem to believe in these so-called remedies.
Given that, how can it work beyond the placebo effect?
It's kind of alarming to me how many people seem to believe in these so-called remedies.
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the mind when convinced can make many insane things into reality. say such as an ego.
also the mind can also create diseases that have no causes. thus if given "medicine" it might "help" the "disease".
people are crazy!!!
I am crazy too!
We all are!:)
We all believe in our spiritual growth, but in reality we are all stuck and confused.
The best thing to do is to stay with simplicity.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html
I've been given homeopathics that have done nothing, but I've been given ones (it depends on how good the practitioner is, and the diagnostic tools they use, etc.) that caused a brief reaction after I took them, and did help ameliorate symptoms. I think this is like the problem with clairvoyant mediums. There are so many outright fakes out there, along with those who have only a very weak or minimal gift, that people come to the conclusion it's all fake.
Sorta like Tibetan lamas; the Lamrim says that to find one who is knowledgeable and ethical is one in a million, a needle in a haystack. One could easily conclude that most are fakes and lechers.
Clairvoyance isn't fake except when "demonstrated" by frauds. Some people have a clairvoyant gift. (Check out some of Aura's posts on this forum, and Mr. Serenity's.) Clairvoyance is also mentioned in the sutras as a by-product of steady meditation practice (according to Vincenzi). We had a member who began to experience clairvoyance after years of meditation, and he found it quite distracting.
Most of us have paranormal abilities that we're not aware of because we've been programmed a) by the scientific mindset not to believe in that stuff and b) by 500 years of witch-hunts and terror that resulted in our repressing these abilities. Judith Orloff, a psychologist, wrote about her experience growing up with clairvoyance, and her mother forbidding her to talk about it, and generally being very disapproving. She repressed her gift for some years, then as an adult, Orloff chose to incorporate her gift into a psychiatry practice. I think her first book is called "Second Sight" (see Amazon).
2) http://www.skepdic.com/homeo.html
3) http://www.theskepticsguide.org/search.aspx?search=homeopathy
May all beings be happy.
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http://www.theskepticsguide.org
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I have researched the topic and it is very, very, clear that homeopathy is 100% fraud.
As wikipedia says: "The collective weight of scientific evidence has found homeopathy to be no more effective than a placebo."
This statement is supported by the most extensive review of all studies done, which concluded: "the hypothesis that any given homeopathic remedy leads to clinical effects that are relevantly different from placebo or superior to other control interventions for any medical condition, is not supported by evidence from systematic reviews. Until more compelling results are available, homeopathy cannot be viewed as an evidence-based form of therapy." You should note, this study was actually done by a trained homeopath!
Link to this study: http://1.usa.gov/gKki7W
WHAT!!!??? Where did you hear such nonsense? Are you saying all non-pharmaceutical remedies are junk? I think several tens of thousands of years of very successful homeopathic human medicine would tend to dispute that. I'm sure many thimgs sold as remedies are junk, but then so are MANY things sold by big pharma.
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Good story, Dakini. Glad you got your health issues resolved. some people's systems are so sensitive, they need a subtle treatment, rather than being hit over the head with a blunt instrument (Pharma). It's good to have alternatives available, because everyone's different, every individual biological system and constitution is unique. If Pharma were the only thing available in the US, Dakini wouldn't have been able to resolve her condition.
If you think taking water pills (which is exactly what homeopathy is) cured your thyroid, you are mistaken. I bet you just eliminated foods that aggravated it.
I am not a huge fan of pharmaceuticals so I am not really partisan to that side. But the idea that if you dilute something so much that usually it becomes undetectable and that has some weird health benefit, to me, seems obviously incorrect. I also think its been shown pretty conclusively that it doesnt work.
"The term "homeopathy" is often incorrectly used to refer to almost any alternative approach to medicine—especially the use of herbal and other natural remedies"
Dakini, if you dont mind, what is the name of the remedy ? Im just curious if it truly falls under the category of homeopathy or herbal medicine.