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"Just Be" Crap
zen_world
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I am going to throw up from "just be" response under every thread....
If the answer is "just be" then Buddha wouldn't give thousands of teachings. Obviously there is a reason that we CANNOT BE JUST BE....
Our mind is so screwed up, we don't know any better.
Q:Hey I wanna have sex, is it wrong?
A:Just be
Q:Hey I can't progress in meditation
A:Just be
Q:I have just killed dozens of animals
A:Oh well, just be...
99% of you have no idea about just being you and yet the answer is always the same...
Some of you really need some hard core dharma teachings to unwire those wrong views...
How can you "be" when we are full of crap....if it was that simple, we would already be enlightened...
"Just be" advice should be used very carefully or else you are just putting someone into trouble...
Buddhism is a very hard work -in order to get to the state of "just be"...
If the answer is "just be" then Buddha wouldn't give thousands of teachings. Obviously there is a reason that we CANNOT BE JUST BE....
Our mind is so screwed up, we don't know any better.
Q:Hey I wanna have sex, is it wrong?
A:Just be
Q:Hey I can't progress in meditation
A:Just be
Q:I have just killed dozens of animals
A:Oh well, just be...
99% of you have no idea about just being you and yet the answer is always the same...
Some of you really need some hard core dharma teachings to unwire those wrong views...
How can you "be" when we are full of crap....if it was that simple, we would already be enlightened...
"Just be" advice should be used very carefully or else you are just putting someone into trouble...
Buddhism is a very hard work -in order to get to the state of "just be"...
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RIGHT THERE. that's it.
just be isn't a state or an act. it just is.
we fail and fail and fail and fail and fail and fail
and suffer and suffer
until we just be and accept it all by just being.
that is why dogen asserts that zazen is buddha!
Well, thats why Tibetans say it would take eons and eons of time to get enlightened with Zen....now I agree...
we struggle until we surrender.
when we totally give up then we come into being.
until then try hard! see if that will get you anywhere hahaha.
Buddha didn't say: Oh just be until you can surrender....Instead he gave countless teachings to get us enlightened...there is a reason right?
You are talking like your 3 poisons are transformeed. aleady..I wonder now if you see your true mind?
Walk the middle way.
The heart of the path is so simple. No need for long explanations. Give up clinging to love and hate, just rest with things as they are. That is all I do in my own practice.
Do not try to become anything. Do no make yourself into anything. Do not be a meditator. Do not become enlightened. When you sit, let it be. When you walk, let it be. Grasp at nothing. Resist nothing.
Of course, there are dozens of meditation techniques to develop samadhi and many kinds of vipassana. But it all comes back to this-just let it all be. Step over here where it is cool, out of the battle.
Why not give it a try? Do you dare? - Achaan Chah from "A Still Forest Pool".
you make it more complicated.
what are you looking for?
in one moment of clear seeing, you will realize just this.
i hope you wake what to what is. then the real work begins.
What does it have to do with Buddhism? Ask Taiyaki because I don't know!
which is fine, but most minds need time to just be.
in zazen we sit and thats all. sitting itself is enlightenment. sitting and just watching everything come and go. the process of sitting is what is focused on. not to attain something, but to just sit. there is no goal in zazen. you sit and you watch and you be.
then when you are being, you stop that as well because being becomes something to do. so just sit zazen.
it's not for everyone and it is hard work. it is boring and at times frustrating. and sometimes is very blissful and joyful. thick and thin. heaven or hell. just be. just sit. just watch.
There's an old buddhist saying. If you are going to have one desire, desire to have no desires.
I do believe we are all in a dream and we need something extrordinary to wake us up just like we see something scary in our normal dreams and we suddenly wake up as a result... Insight is that power, it is this factor that will flip upside down our brain circuts...To get the insight, you analyze, you read, you meditate and you analyze again...Simply "just be" won't take you deeper...
Awakening is important but it is not enlightenment...You need to cleat your subconsiousness to become enlightened...
I know I will admit for saying that a few times.
But you are totally on point! We cannot just be, if we don't know what being is.
Especially, if we don't know who the hell we are!
I do believe we are all in a dream and we need something extrordinary to wake us up just like we see something scary in our normal dreams and we suddenly wake up as a result... Insight is that power, it is this factor that will flip upside down our brain circuts...To get the insight, you analyze, you read, you meditate and you analyze again...Simply "just be" won't take you deeper...
Awakening is important but it is not enlightenment...You need to cleat your subconsiousness to become enlightened...
I like this.
There is a reason that the Buddha is often compared to a doctor.
And someone coming in here talking about removing the three poisons from their continuity of consciousness does not mean they are claiming they have gone beyond them. Seriously, this line of argumentation seems completely unnecessary.
if you've awakened then just go for the ride of purification.
there is nothing for you to do.
there has never been anything for you to do. just be and see. in that you will realize what is. in what is, is wisdom. in wisdom the true compassion arises.
this is not to say we do not do anything. action is very important! but everything and everyone is telling you to do things. has it worked? just be.
everything is helping you to purify yourself so that you can just sit in clear open awareness to what is.
many people run away from their suffering and try their best to escape it. face it directly with open arms
by being with it. in one moment of clear seeing all suffering is see for what it is.
because you believe in the notion that you have to do something to get something. the buddha and many other teachers give you a task to chip away at what you cling to.
that is fine, but realize the path is very clear and simple. just this! if it takes a million years of running around so be it. if it takes a shotgun to the face so be it.
either way you'll end up where you are now.
When eating, EAT...when drinking DRINK..when talking TALK, when listening LISTEN.
How many times do people get interupted in a converstation. And its because they wernt really listening to you. They wernt being in the NOW with full concentration...And the only way to be in the NOW is to JUST BE...In the now...
You are only what you are RIGHT NOW...theres no mystery.
If you are nasty to someone RIGHT NOW then you are a nasty person in their eyes.
If you are a being NICE right now then YOU ARE BEING NICE right now. So somone will see you as a nice person. The now is the only time we have and to make an impact on the world, ourselves and on others NOW. And the best way to live is to be fully honest with our selves...and how do we do this? WE JUST BE....
We just be....we just be whatever the situation is. We flow. Like water.
'you put water into a cup it BECOMES the cup.You put water into a bottle it BECOMES the bottle. You put water into a teapot it becomes the teapot. Water can flow..or it can crash....Be like water!!! water just is...water just be's...
it becomes that situation Whatever it is... It can adapt to anything. And so can we...by just being.........Stop asking questions and just be....do what you have to do.
If its writing on here, then write. But dont over think things like ''ill say this, then ill say that if he says this then im gonna say that and etc etc etc.....Just flow with life. Just get on with it. Get off the spiritual path. Just move in all directions for there isnt just ONE direction. There are many paths. Just be my friend.
We dont know ANYTHING about what buddha said 2500 years ago. Its ALL just hear-say...Alot of it is all just added commentry. We dont know what went on in buddhas time. Just do your best. Have common sense. Forget about enlightenment. It probably doesnt exist. Its probably well OVER-RATED. Know one knows what the hell enlightenment is. We can all have opinions BUT THAT ALL THEY ARE. ''OPINIONS''
We will always have these opinions because opinions make us feel good. We need opinions to keep us BEING RIGHT....''no im right so ill comment..Im right so im gonna start a thread about this and about that.....
When it doesnt really matter does it??? JUST LIVE YOUR LIFE. JUST BE.
CHILL, relax more. If your going to meditate, meditate because you enjoy it and not because your searching for enlightenment. What is enlightenment anyway?
I dont want to know what buddha said it was because hes dead now, and seen as it was 2500 years ago im guessing none of us met him so we're never going to know for sure are we? CAN WE AT LEAST AGREE ON THAT!!
When people say ''just be...'' You either get it or you dont.
But there will become a day when you wil 'just get it' and realize that 'just being is the ultimate way.
The best practice is to have no pratcice. The best way to be is to just be...
This is actually my last post guys. As ive mentioned in my last thread that Im no longer practising and im hanging up my boots and just being more....as i believe just being is the way...
'when we just be..We accept what is.
And when we accept, we can let go...
Acceptance is the key to serenity..
(but what is the key to acceptance..........................= just being!!!!!!
surrendering isn't something you do.
it just happens when you have nothing else to do.
when you just give up because samsara is kicking your ass.
Just take what is useful to your life from the teachings and live it.
However, it is also clear how the term "just be" fits into "meditation" only without the pondering, but, with being as a witness to the rise and fall of thought patterns that symbolize energy which are part of being; only, with analysis precluded. To "just be as a witness" deepens with awareness. Sitting, watching, listening, deepens being as more is witnessed until all is empty, during "meditation:" No self no other. How will this be functional to the worldly?
Perhaps there is a time and place to "just be" for Lays, a Temple for Disciples, and total and complete liberation to for a seeker.
Bliss
For me, 'just be' means 'don't give yourself a hard time'. Easier said than done, mind you - I'm very much a novice at it! And I don't believe it's something you can just decide to do all at once - it comes gradually with the realisation that the alternative is just going to cause you even more suffering. And shouldn't the goal of reducing suffering apply to ourselves as well as to other sentient beings?
There is more to it than words. That is why there are so many teachings. The path is so simple that we have trouble following it.
"When sunlight falls on a crystal, lights of all colors of the rainbow appear; yet they have no substance that you can grasp. Likewise, all thoughts in their infinite variety -devotion, compassion, harmfulness, desire - are utterly without a substance. This is the mind of the Buddha."
- Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche -
I agree. People use this response when they really have no idea what theyre talking about, Its almost as if some have never heard of ethical discipline, practising virtue or progressing on the path.