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shoot your computer

genkakugenkaku Northampton, Mass. U.S.A. Veteran
edited February 2012 in General Banter
Serene psychologists may put their studied analyses to work, but I'm not sure they will ever be able to outflank the laughter and delight of burdened parents everywhere after a North Carolina father, disgusted by his 15-year-old daughter's Facebook complaints about her chores, took her laptop into the backyard and emptied his .45 into it. He put his actions on Youtube. His parting words before taking action: "... Kid, you've got it easy, way easy. It's about to get harder." All the analyses and tut-tutting in the world make me want to say, "Take two sissy pills and call me in the morning." Reproving dissection is like one of those lugubrious Ph.D. theses about "humor" -- explaining and asserting self-importance when laughter is plain as the nose on your face. Lord love a duck! Made my day.

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  • Yeah, not that I agree with gun violence (or the waste of a perfectly good computer) but there is a reason I unfriended my own kids.
  • I loved this when I saw it a few days ago, that guy obviously has a lot of emotion, and bullets lol
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran
    I'm of the thinking that kids do as their parents do more than as their parents say. The facebook post sounded to me like something that could have come out of the dad's mouth.

    I don't care for tough love. I think most of the time it arises out of frustration and not out of concern for the child.

    IMO this father should look to his own attitude and behavior to see where his child is going wrong instead of inflicting pain on her to hopefully modify her behavior.

    This is coming from someone with no kids so disregard as needed.
  • I think the father was more interested in mortifying his daughter than discipline her. And publicly!! This was more for his gratification than anything.

    Although, he probably would find support in the Texas NRA, FFF, and any other yeehaw, gun slinging parent.

    What do his action contribute to us after the shocked amusement wears off?

    Is this a new parenting technique?

    When I was growing up, my friend and I, both 13 were trusted with money to go shopping at the mall for back to school.

    I managed to find a wardrobe for a couple hundred dollars while she spent her 200 dollars on 2pairs of pants. Designer jeans, he could not return. She was so proud and couldn't wait to wear them to school.

    And wore them, she did. All year! Her dad told her he had only budgeted that money for her, that she wouldn't get another dime until the following spring.

    I'm sure he could have afforded a whole closet but she had broken his trust and he needed to teach her a lesson about money.

    He didn't ground her, but she always talked about it thru her high school years...she loved her dad, very much.

    Here's to you, stinky pants Patty.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited February 2012
    I've already commented on this at the midwest beer-brewing forum where I am a reg. Shooting a gun in public when you are angry at someone is not something that is cool (to me). I'll credit the guy that is anger was reigned in. One little piece he forgot to mention is that he was snooping in his daughter's facebook account.

    So if there are any young 'adults' reading this, make sure to log-out when you are done with facebook!
  • Lady Alison, your story reminds of how I "disciplined" ( I use the term very loosely) my two, now adult, daughters. I taught them that everything has a consequence e.g. you don't put your washing in the bin for wash day it doesn't get washed until next week .A lesson learnt is so much better than a "good talking to" and saying the action was wrong. I remember having to leave the room stifling guffaws of laughter after seeing the look on my children's faces sometimes. But lets just say they learned more than a few of life's realities ;)
  • It's a parents job to "snoop" IMHO
  • Oh, shame on you! :D
  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    edited February 2012
    I think that for dad, shooting the computer was therapy.

    Speaking of gun violence, did you hear about the CA immigration officers who got into a shoot-out with each other ? One got turned down for a transfer he wanted, so he shot his supervisor right there in the meeting with him. Another agent was there, and shot the disgruntled employee and killed him. The supervisor survived his gunshot wound.

    idk about snooping on kids' computers, but maybe , just maybe, with all the creepy predators out there, it's justified these days? What do you guys think?
  • @ethera ...that's hilarious. Maybe we should all share stories about growing up... my mother used a belt.

    Not only that, but she would be to lazy to remember where it was so she would have me go retrieve it, hand it to her and then expose flesh.

    Lol...but that was in the eighties and I come from a Latino family..."quieres llorar mas! "

    I think crying made her angrier. Good times!
  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    edited February 2012
    That doesn't sound like the Native way to raise kids, the Mayan way, @Lady_Alison. :(
  • No, I think real Mayans, would have some sort of rite of passage...or the father's would have no problem killing their bad children.

    I doubt their children rebelled...I was a little shit, though.
  • I think snooping is okay. But you need to make sure you're not going to bring it up...there has to be some tact...adults have to be smarter than their children so some investigation is necessary. Like kill bill dad could have read the posts and strategically figured out a way to approach his daughter.

    I think he was hurt by her lack of appreciation and the rantings online.

    But appreaciation has to be cultivated, like all good qualities. He could have been more proactive.

    I'm sure he regrets it.
  • Well, it does sound like he has a short fuse, or is stressed in general. Shooting a computer, using a gun, displaying temper to that degree, can be terrifying for a kid.
  • I don't know if he has a short fuse or it was really a long battle. Hard to say. But this morning as I am racking up money for another root canal for my daughter she is complaining about dishes, AGAIN, and then having to have her next root canal during spring break. Um yeah, she has no job and no school so how is this a break? Plus I have adjusted my work schedule enough, it will now be on my schedule because I support us.

    Okay that was a side note, I still would shoot it because I don't think that is safe, however I feel for the adult. Kids can do about anything and we are legally and financially responsible for all of it until 18 and sometimes beyond.

    It is very simplistic (sorry if this is rude) to say kids just copy parents. My kids are not copying me in their school work achievement and I lose my temper badly about every 5 years. My kids are their own person, and as such they will make their own mistakes. However if they look like they are heading towards a mistake that will cost them or me more than we can afford financially or emotionally I will step in with everything I can, parenting advice be damned. Often you really really do not want to see something coming or you think you raised your kids better or anything. I know the kid is probably scared at this point, but I would like to encourage a whole lotta compassion for dad. Especially considering the suicides from kids being bullied on-line, etc.

    Sorry, seeing my own point of view very much. So many people have told me what a great parent I am and yet somedays my accomplishment is keeping my kids out of in patient treatment centers.
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited February 2012
    @AHeerdt, that perspective helps me to see sympathy for the dad.
  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    edited February 2012
    Sorry, seeing my own point of view very much.
    This is exactly why I posed my question--to get everyone's point of view! Well done! :)

    @genkaku--You should've titled the thread: "Shoot Your Child's Computer", ha.

  • I see the fathers intentions are well meaning. But the approach was a bit much.
  • genkakugenkaku Northampton, Mass. U.S.A. Veteran
    Did anyone notice that the dad did NOT shoot his daughter, an action that has crossed any loving parent's mind from time to time?

    Parents are the envelope that kids are destined to push. We've all pushed the envelope. But there's nothing saying that when you push the envelope it won't or shouldn't result in a few paper cuts.
  • Parents are the envelope that kids are destined to push.
    Only if parents are over-protective and/or controlling, authoritarian. Which seems to be a lot of parents, in the West. It's a cultural thing to a large extent, in my observation.

  • I admit what he did was overkill, but the teenage boy I am has to admit it gave me a good laugh.
  • genkakugenkaku Northampton, Mass. U.S.A. Veteran
    Parents are the envelope that kids are destined to push.
    Only if parents are over-protective and/or controlling, authoritarian. Which seems to be a lot of parents, in the West. It's a cultural thing to a large extent, in my observation.

    @Daikini -- Have you ever seen lion/tiger/wolves with their young -- the kids frolic and mimic and sometimes go too far ... at which point mom or dad will give them a more serious nip.

  • No, I haven't observed animal kiddies.
  • Hmm I was thinking waay too much about this. Put I think I have clarified one related idea with 20+ years of kids and working with children.

    There are crappy parents and crappy parenting, I will call people on that because I have been required to report child abuse and neglect since like I was 12. There are parents who are mean or ignorant or don't care.

    There are a lot of parents trying to do it different and in a different world they were raised in. Then you see a lot of confusion and mixed styles such as listening actively and then blowing your stack (which I have done).

    But I will not look at a child and assume anything about parenting based on their behavior without any other evidence.

    Make sense?
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