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spider season
gracelee
Veteran
In the UK it is the beginning of spider season.
I just killed a spider.... I don't want to keep killing spiders but i don't know what else to do!!
I am incredibly phobic of spiders... I have over time trained myself if i can to put a glass over the offending creature. but once ive done that the poor little thing will die anyway because i cant get close enough to take it outside...
I am so afraid of spiders i cannot sleep/relax unless I know the spider is outside or........ erm..... dead (unfortunately my partner is the same)
any advice??
I just killed a spider.... I don't want to keep killing spiders but i don't know what else to do!!
I am incredibly phobic of spiders... I have over time trained myself if i can to put a glass over the offending creature. but once ive done that the poor little thing will die anyway because i cant get close enough to take it outside...
I am so afraid of spiders i cannot sleep/relax unless I know the spider is outside or........ erm..... dead (unfortunately my partner is the same)
any advice??
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If you put a glass over it, get a piece of thin cardboard, and slide it under the glass, maintaining pressure between the glass and the cardboard. Have a window open already. Extend your hands (with glass, etc.) out of the window, quickly remove cardboard, shake glass so spider falls out onto the ground. If you can't handle that, just drop the whole contraption out the window onto the ground (assuming there's grass or soil, so glass won't break). It's good to have paper cups handy for this.
This is good for smaller spiders. If it's bigger and seriously scary, just scream and beat it with a broom.
but where do you order ladybugs? who sells ladybugs? LOL!
You can desensitise yourself by looking at and touching photographs of them, then handling the littlest ones. But it takes time and patience.
I have a catcher like a cup with a sliding door which works well if they are in the right position, but the big ones often move too fast. The vacuum cleaner has claimed most of them.
Some, not so small actually.... the tiniest spiders float like specks on gossamer threads, carried by the breeze.... sometimes the swallows and swifts get them, I'm sure.... The largest, sit there like menacing, silent monsters, just waiting for some poor, unsuspecting flying creature to pay them a visit.....
You have to live with them.
Killing them really, isn't logical.
As someone else said above, psychologists treat phobias all the time, it takes time but it's a well understood process.
(By the way, I have owned and bred reptiles and I strongly resent that remark....)
Where do you draw the 'sentience' line...?
And more's the point, why?
What gives us that right?
Ok, I don't have a spider 'phobia' - though I'm not crazy for them... but that picture?? Totally freaks me out! LOL
:eek:
You don't want to kill spiders. Okay. Do you take an antibiotic when you're sick? That kills a life form. Do you put Clorox in your washer when doing whites? That kills life forms. Do you wash your kitchen counter top occasionally with a disinfectant cleaner? That kills life forms.
We have to decide -- as individuals -- where that line is.
I can't equate with people feeling comfortable with killing them..... :bawl:
What about the invasive pythons in the Everglades that are changing the whole environment? Or the invasive and very poisonous brown tree snakes in Guam?
Why is a snake killable simply because it's venomous?
Some humans would, with that argument, merit a similar fate....
And your standard, for you, is fine.
But everyone else may not have the same standard. Which of course, brings us back to my favorite topic (not that I want to discuss it again) that the Precepts are just guidelines, so there are no hard and fast rules.
should bear the cost of re-locating them. Thats who put them there.
Lets just start from there.
No, I have no idea how to enforce that, And very limited ideas of the rest of
the red tape.
It would just help the pythons, us, and all the enviroment and animals
to agree that it's on 'us'......decide who's jurisdiction that 'us' is, and
lets get our reptile friends back home. Just saying.
The taxes and etc, is yes....the mess.
Accountability is not as hard as it sounds.
Sorted.
Second, many are former pets bought here in the U.S.
Third, we just can't force snakes back to other countries.
Responsible reptile sellers tend to sell captive/home bred reptiles, and ones taken from the wild should be banned. we know well enough how to breed virtually every animal on the planet, so importing species shouldn't be necessary.
People should be better educated about the animals they buy, and sellers should take responsibility for 'vetting' potential buyers - exactly the way rescue centres do for cats, dogs and other domestic pets.
This general cavalier attitude towards this situation is appalling and frankly, horrifying.
but killing them - just because they're reptiles?
IMO the better approach is one of trying not to harm any living creature, which seems to be more consistent with the spirit of the precepts and with developing compassion and wisdom.
Maybe if myself or babies lives were in danger I may feel differently but that would be the only reason ......
Some reptiles might be dangerous if you go to try and pet them on the head, but if you look at the big picture, human beings are actually more dangerous than reptiles IMO. I've never seen an alligator drop an atom bomb on a city. I've never seen an alligator dump toxic waste in a river killing everything that drinks it. I've never seen a group of alligators dump 200 million gallons of oil in the ocean. If we are to kill off dangerous animals, human beings should be at the top of the list!
How idiotic....
:skeptic:
If something was poisonous or harmful I'd kill it without hesitation - even if it couldn't kill me it could kill my cats.
So I get my husband to let spiders out while I find high ground
How idiotic....
:skeptic:
I am sorry you feel this way. But there is no evidence in scripture that killing a reptile is wrong from a karmic or dharmic point of view.
No, intentional harm is wrong, and nowhere does it quantify what you should not be harming, so it doesn't work by exclusion either.
D'uh! :banghead:
Killing should be an absolutely 'no other choice' last resort, not a primary option.
Why 'Logically'? Why do you suppose, simply because they can't read shakespeare, that any other animals of your selective choice, are less deserving of life simply because, by your narrow definition, they're not 'intelligent'...?
You need to do a little more research and 'soul-searching' because something is definitely awry with your logic.