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Right Action Dilemma
Bunks
Australia Veteran
I saw the young guys who live across the street sell drugs (not sure what it was but the deal was fairly obvious) to someone in their front yard yesterday afternoon.
On the face of it I don't care as it has no affect on me or my life. However, my wife and I know the lady who they rent the house from (she looks after our daughter at occasional care) but she did ask us to let her know if we ever have any issues with them........do you think I should mention this to her?
My gut feeling is not to but I'm interested in other people's thoughts.
On the face of it I don't care as it has no affect on me or my life. However, my wife and I know the lady who they rent the house from (she looks after our daughter at occasional care) but she did ask us to let her know if we ever have any issues with them........do you think I should mention this to her?
My gut feeling is not to but I'm interested in other people's thoughts.
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Do not effect that which is not your business . . . get involved in drug counselling or some useful action if you want to be pro-active.
That would be my advice. :wave:
Just because it hasn't been your problem so far doesn't mean it won't become one. Dealers aren't nice people, the people they deal with aren't nice people and you have a child. Nip it in the bud.
It is more about the owner of the house than me. My wife feels the same way.
I have a variety of neighbours, some prune. Luckily no busy bodies . . . :cool:
I live in a sleepy little backward town in Australia! We settle stuff quietly here.
Don't really care about the outcome although I wouldn't be upset if they were to move out.
Having said all that, maybe you've got a point re her legal status. Food for thought. Thanks!
It's insane that you're comfortable living by drug dealers, especially with a child in your home. It's ridiculous. You don't know who they're selling to. I've seen petty weed dealers have problems with "clients". Guys who sell dime bags to friends of friends. What if they're selling something stronger? You don't know what you're dealing with here.
There is a difference between regulated and legally sold alcohol and drugs.
Like I said, it's ridiculous.
next door, ok? lolololol
Stay clear. Offer help if you can.
People cannot take your advantage...if you give it to them.
Check back with us if you think things are getting worse.
We can go from there.
Thats what we do in the ghetto/'hoods/projects, anyway.
How happy/safe are they with criminals living by them?
We live in communities and we have responsibilities towards our neighbours. We might be (ridiculously) comfortable with criminals living next door, but it doesn't mean they are.
A problem like this goes beyond just what we are comfortable with, we have other people to consider. If I found out my neighbor was Bunks who knew about this but didn't say anything I would be furious.
Dealing drugs isn't a small thing. It's not like they just have a lemonade stand or something.
I have decided that I will ask a real estate agent if they know what the implications for the owner are and then go from there......
I will keep you informed.
Basically, they went from selling a little to some friends, to selling meth to whoever. All hours of the day, cars were driving up constantly to buy drugs, and in time, violence came with it. We'd wake up at night to armed swat members in our yard, and one evening while we were watching a movie with our newborn sitting with us, someone tossed a molotov cocktail in a car parked in front of our house. It caused an explosion and the car caught fire. We were put on lockdown for several hours while they searched the neighborhood. My son's bus stop was out the front door, and in the winter he came home in the dark, which meant I'd have to stand on the sidewalk waiting for him in the dark. No thanks. It went from a great neighborhood to a dangerous one in less than a year, and in a town with 80,000 people so we aren't talking Chicago or anything. While drug users typically aren't any one to worry about, drug dealers definitely can be.
Now, if you aren't sure of what you saw, then I wouldn't do anything about it just yet. You don't want to cause alarm and problems with your neighbor/landlord and her tenant for nothing. But people who do deal drugs (beyond supplying a dime bag to a buddy I mean) establish pretty regular habits and clientele, so it's worth keeping an eye on to see if it escalates.
Oh, and if they deal in meth or other harder drugs, they can put the whole area at risk for fire, chemical exposure, and explosions as well.
Deling drugs is easy money. When people figure out they can get more (a lot more) for harder drugs, they often decide to. It's just loser economics.
Some people should smoke a little weed and chill out a bit . . .
Funnily enough the sky hasn't fallen in and my anxiety level has dropped!
You said that you have spoken to the people and they seem OK. Now personally, I would tell them it looked like they actually had a drug deal go down outside, where everyone can see it, and you know it couldn't be that but to be careful in the future because this is a neighborhood with kids running around and that sort of thing is noticed real fast. But that's just me.
I'd let your meditation guide you with this.
Other folks drug habits is their business. Reporting observed associated criminal activities that often fund it, ( prostitution, moving stolen property, etc) should be all of our business.
I remember some teachers advised us not to go there, but I'd still always see kids go there directly after school. My sister and I would go there when our parents weren't around, and there wasn't anything we liked in the fridge.
The store eventually closed down in the late 90's, possibly due to people all over California becoming more and more "PC". Having a liquor store so close to an elementary school was definitely NOT PC. The neighborhood has been more quiet since.
Your dilemma is tough. I guess you'd want to keep the peace and not cause trouble, but who knows what other trouble could come from the dealer's clients. If there was a way to report the dealers anonymously without getting yourself nor the landlord in trouble, I might go that route.
Note to forum: I do not advocate the use of illegal narcotics - As someone who has suffered serious damage from the use of illegal drugs my thoughts are just say no folks. However criminalising people who are just being young and stupid isn't the answer either.
Anyway, as I neared the library they all ran off and started following other people.
Last night I heard them calling out and whistling so I went over and told them I'd seen the dogs and they'd followed me earlier in the day. I could tell they really appreciated me telling them.
Apparently two of the dogs came home but one was still missing. The side gate of their place had swung open in the wind and they'd escaped.
I'm going to keep an eye out for this missing dog or for any Found posters about. They seemed really friendly animals so perhaps someone has taken her home. We live in a small town.
Can you spot the difference?
Sheesh.
:rolleyes:
Right view or seeing things as they really are is not so easy. We all have been conditioned by what has preceded. Some of this conditioning is cultural. Some is based on our childhoods. Some of it is just our own habitual responses that becomes our karmic chain. If we don't pay attention, with a lot of compassion and detachment, to what arises we just end up clinging to views and options that distort the facts of the matter and lead away from right action.
As to what is the right action in this specific example, I couldn't say. But doing nothing, especially when presented with limited facts, may also be right action.
Best Wishes
Can you spot the difference?
Sheesh.
:rolleyes:
If alcohol and tobacco are legal then all other drugs should be legal. Just my opinion.
Good luck to everyone . . .
Good luck to everyone . . .
Thanks lobster. As I said in my initial post about these guys. I reckon they're ok. While they have been a bit annoying to live near, they have treated me and my wife with respect when we have dealt with them.
Can you spot the difference?
Sheesh.
:rolleyes:
Depends on where you are. The state of Colorado in the US just legalized marijuana for recreational use. My state has legalized medical marijuana and Detroit just "decriminalized" it for recreational use (meaning, it's no longer a misdemeanor and you just get a fine), but Colorado is the first to actually make it available without a medical issue.
@Bunks is marijuana legal for medical use where you live? If they're being so obvious about it, it makes me wonder if maybe they are a legal distributor (that's how it works here, anyways)... but then again, you didn't mention this possibility, so probably not?
I recently saw the lady who owns the place but didn't say anything to her as it seems pointless.