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How can I choose a profession?

It has been 5 years since I've finished high school and I haven't made up my mind yet. I don't even know if I should go to college or to vocational school. Visual arts and Social Sciences are subjects I'm into. But the job prospects in those fields aren't particularly attractive to me. Unless I can find a way to get the degree to really help people. 'Cause that's what I want the most: help people and be actually in contact with them, not help them through the computer or something like that. Is there any sort of meditation I can do to solve this? I can't afford a vocational guidance counselor...

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  • Go volunteer somewhere, then see where life takes you. There are people out there now who need love and support. If you have it to give then just go, find them, do it. :)
    BunkslobsterInvincible_summer
  • DaftChrisDaftChris Spiritually conflicted. Not of this world. Veteran
    I started college after high school and it took me about 3 years and changing my major 5 times before I found out what I wanted to do.

    So no worries. :)
  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    edited December 2012
    Are you a people person? Are you empathic and patient in dealing with people? There's an online Meyers-Briggs Personality Test, one version has you pay a nominal fee, the other is free. It gives you your test results as a letter code, then you can look that up on the corresponding page that details the personality characteristics typical of your type, and there's another page that lists the careers you're best suited for. You can Google it.

    btw, what have you been doing for those 5 years? Have you been volunteering, and testing different venues and environments to see what suits you best? (Health care/hospital volunteer, political activism, enviro work, soup kitchens, etc.) What about being a Peace Corps or Vista volunteer? Those look good on a resume, and can really give you an in-depth feel for helping others.
  • Dakini said:

    Are you a people person? Are you empathic and patient in dealing with people? There's an online Meyers-Briggs Personality Test, one version has you pay a nominal fee, the other is free. It gives you your test results as a letter code, then you can look that up on the corresponding page that details the personality characteristics typical of your type, and there's another page that lists the careers you're best suited for. You can Google it.

    The enneagram is a good one if you're into this kind of thing.
  • karastikarasti Breathing Minnesota Moderator
    I'm almost 37 and I still don't know what I wanna do, and I went to college already and have a degree, lol.
    The only advice I can give, as I'm going through this some with my son, is to look at what you love, what you have passion for, and look around about how to turn that into a job. Don't look for a job to fit into what you already feel strongly about, because it doesn't work as well. There are jobs, and even degrees out there for almost anything under the sun you can imagine to do. The hard part is in find that "yes, this is what I want to spend the next 40 years doing." You could also make appointments to visit a couple very different college (vocational, community, 4 year, small, large, etc) and talk to the counselors. They'll give you different tips and different ideas.

    My sister spent most of her live working small time line cook jobs and vacationing in the summer. She is now 34 and recently went back to college. She swore she'd never go. Then she met someone who stoked her interest, and away she went. She's now a 4.0 student with a double major in psychology and social justice with a minor in history. It's ok if it takes time to figure out. A lot of people can't figure it out until they experience more of what is out there to even ask the questions. I always assumed that what you saw in the guidance counselor office was what there was. I wish I had known differently because I would not have missed the chance to do what I loved as a career. It's no longer possible, which is ok. But it doesn't have to be that way. Be honest about what you like to actually spend your time doing. Not just what you like to read about.
  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran

    It has been 5 years since I've finished high school and I haven't made up my mind yet. I don't even know if I should go to college or to vocational school. Visual arts and Social Sciences are subjects I'm into. But the job prospects in those fields aren't particularly attractive to me. Unless I can find a way to get the degree to really help people. 'Cause that's what I want the most: help people and be actually in contact with them, not help them through the computer or something like that. Is there any sort of meditation I can do to solve this? I can't afford a vocational guidance counselor...

    Im in the same position, Its difficult knowing what you want to do but i've managed to narrow it down to something that helps others :)
    lobster
  • I was just the same; when at school I didn't know what I wanted to be. I was following the crowd and planning to do higher education but really couldn't decide which subjects to follow. Then a chance came to me to work as an apprentice in engineering. That was not something I had ever considered but decided to give it a go anyway as I had no other preference. All through my career I was unsure if I was on the right path, two degrees later I got my professional qualification and still I could have given it up in an instant. Finally I have now found something that interests me and it's a specialism within engineering, a niche area where I can use my education and skills. I'm having to study a 3rd degree to achieve my goals but it will all have been worth while.

    You may not know now the direction you wish to travel but at least choose a direction and see where it takes you. Too many people choose not to pursue anything either because they can't be bothered or because they are undecided. Whatever you choose will add to your life experience and make you a wiser and more informed person.

    Good luck.
    Dakini

  • It has been 5 years since I've finished high school and I haven't made up my mind yet.

    'Cause that's what I want the most: help people and be actually in contact with them, not help them through the computer or something like that.

    Is there any sort of meditation I can do to solve this?

    Even if you made up your mind, there is no saying that it will happen! I find most people kind of 'fell' into their profession... sort of - there is an aim, there is motivation and then with luck/opportunity, a result.

    Dont think meditation will 'solve' it.

    Rather, perhaps just do it - as in, if you want to do it that bad then do it... the same way as you make sure you have air, can eat, there is a toilet when you need it etc... put it on the priorities list and just get on with it.

    There are way too many options to make a firm decision based solely on what you want plus causation is chaotic so even the best laid plans... etc etc

    Take a step and it will take a step toward you too - good luck.
  • vinlynvinlyn Colorado...for now Veteran
    Meditation will not tell you what profession you should work toward, but what I refer to as "focused meditation" might help you sort out your own thoughts.

    But I would say that it is about time to get on the stick about it.
  • BeejBeej Human Being Veteran
    do what you love and love what you do. thats how you should chose your proffession. :)
  • @Dakini I don't know, maybe I am a people person 'cause I'm happy helping others, but a very shy one. I've already taken that test, and looked at the careers and they're not very interesting. I'm an INFJ, so there's doctor, teacher, psychologist. These aren't what I'm looking for. I'm too sensitive, I can't keep my cool when someone is suffering. Now, onto what I've been doing, I'd say pretty much nothing. I've only worked for a month, the rest of the the time I've been on the internet. I find volunteering quite nice, but again, I'm virtually a social phobic person - and I don't have much too offer. I can't even bring joy for myself, let alone others...

    I want to say everybody thank you for your answers and your kind wishes. I'll take your words into consideration.
  • OP, if you're phobic of people, what are your thoughts on a helping profession that doesn't involve direct contact with people? I can think of a few, like working for a human rights organization. Your lack of people skills narrows down the field considerably. Do you have the option of getting treatment for this issue? I'm an INJ, too. :)
  • @Dakini I don't know, maybe I am a people person 'cause I'm happy helping others, but a very shy one. I've already taken that test, and looked at the careers and they're not very interesting. I'm an INFJ, so there's doctor, teacher, psychologist. These aren't what I'm looking for. I'm too sensitive, I can't keep my cool when someone is suffering. Now, onto what I've been doing, I'd say pretty much nothing. I've only worked for a month, the rest of the the time I've been on the internet. I find volunteering quite nice, but again, I'm virtually a social phobic person - and I don't have much too offer. I can't even bring joy for myself, let alone others...

    I want to say everybody thank you for your answers and your kind wishes. I'll take your words into consideration.

    Chin up, believe in yourself. I think it is very noble of you to wish to dedicate yourself to others. You have love and compassion to offer which is one of the greatest gifts one can give another. Meditation isn't a means of solving a problem, but a tool you can use to overcome a problem. Meditate on what keeps you from achieving your goal and ideally with the understanding that emotion is an illusion, of which we are the creators, you can find the confidence you need to be able to help others to the best of your ability. I too have bouts of social anxiety, so I understand where you're coming from. The important part is to realize these are temporary and if we do not cling to them, they will fall back into our minds, like the waves in the ocean. Keep your intentions pure and study, I suggest the Tibetan book of living and dying, by soygal rinpoche. I wish you great success on your journey. Remember to be light hearted and sincere. The greatest masters seem to also have a warm humor to them, which puts people at ease. Comfort it a big part of people work.

  • karastikarasti Breathing Minnesota Moderator
    Interesting, I am also an INTJ but suggested careers on the thing I printed out ages ago suggest law, engineering, and technology for careers. However, I am extremely introverted but I enjoy people in certain circumstances. I enjoy sharing things I know about things I like with people. Once my son goes to school I will probably try to get a job at the USFS in town, where I can give advice on hiking and camping and hand out permits, lol. That kind of people interaction, I really enjoy. Meetings and large groups and such, no way. I didn't even want to be the center of attention on my wedding day, which is why we only invited 25 people :D

    You do not have to have extensive interaction with people to be able to help them. You can even do it online, by perhaps from home doing web design or other such things for humanitarian organizations. One thing to consider is that when you feed a phobia, it gets worse. I'm not saying you suddenly have to go work for some huge corporation where you have to constantly deal with people. But you also don't have to totally give in to your phobia. Chances are, when you find something that really calls to you, working with people who share that calling will not be so miserable, and you can do it in small groups or with minimal interaction. Heck my aunt works for the state revenue department (Tax collection) but she works from home and does quality review. So she has a great salary and benefits and she gets to stay home reviewing other people's work. She goes into the office once a month for a one hour meeting, otherwise her communication is almost entirely by email and a little by phone.
  • karasti said:

    Interesting, I am also an INTJ but suggested careers on the thing I printed out ages ago suggest law, engineering, and technology for careers.

    The OP is INFJ, which is closely related, but not quite the same as INTJ. I took the test twice, because on some of the questions, I could have gone either way, and the 2nd time, I got INTJ. INFJ's are more intuitive and feelings-oriented, which is why they're advised to go into some kind of counseling or teaching.

    Sounds like your aunt has an amazing job!! Work from home with full benefits & great salary? She scored! :thumbsup:

  • karastikarasti Breathing Minnesota Moderator
    Oh my bad, I read that wrong then. Sorry about that!
  • karasti said:

    Oh my bad, I read that wrong then. Sorry about that!

    Well, you were close. Both INFJ's and INTJ's are the rarest of all the types, and they're closely related.

  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran
    Is there any sort of meditation I can do to solve this?
    I doubt if you are meditating much now, so is there any point in offering more? What are you capable of doing? What is the first step? Who is going to take it? Please tell us when you have taken it. We will be inspired to take our own first steps . . . :clap:
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited December 2012
    What about ISFJ? What kinds of careers. I could look on the net myself but your info @Dakini sounds like you already have the scoop. I am also unemployed right now.
  • I'd have to look it up, @Jeffrey. I knew the other two, because those were my test results. It's fascinating to read, though.
  • howhow Veteran Veteran
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    @lotuspadma
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    Is there any sort of meditation I can do to solve this?


    Most meditations can stop your feeding of the more superfluous wants and aversions connected with your search for a right livelihood.

    It tends to take you out of the equation and leaves the field of what seems good to do, a lot simpler to read.


    The catch 22 of such divinations is that because the clearest meditations are goal less it only really works if one makes the meditation practise a higher priority than any goal.
  • You should consider working as freelance translator/interpreter. I translate from Chinese, English, Polish, Russian and French. Work mostly from home and occasionally travel to do interpreting. Anyways, I think learning languages is always a good way to spend your time as it can prove beneficial in multiple ways. And if you want to help others you can do some volunteer work or get hired by non-profit organizations.
    Cole_
  • I don't actually feel like working from home. I want to be in contact with people, it is gratifying. Just as karasti said, I too can deal with small groups. Working as a cashier was fun, most of my shyness was gone. (But it's not a great job, I'm no good at math)

    @Dakini I've given up on psychologists/psychiatrists. Went to a few, but none helped. Also my insurance doesn't cover psychologists, and they're too expensive for me.

    @lobster Have some faith. That discussion was in late November. Now it's almost the middle of December and I've picked up meditation again. And online dhamma talks, and the Tipitaka. It felt bad living aimlessly like that.

    @Jeffrey You didn't ask me, but I'll hand it to you. If you haven't already seen it, the careers for ISFJ are: interior decorator, designer, nurse, administrator/manager, administrative assistant, Child Care/Early Childhood Development, social work/counselor, paralegal, clergy/religious worker, office manager, shopkeeper, bookkeeper, Home Economics. Found here: http://www.personalitypage.com/ISFJ_car.html
    Jeffrey
  • Cool, I've enjoyed a volunteer pseudo administrative assistant. I might try to train as a paralegal, that sounds cool.
  • RodrigoRodrigo São Paulo, Brazil Veteran
  • get this book. 'what is the color of my parachute'
    choose a job that you like, if you are good at it, you will be paid well.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/What-Color-Your-Parachute-Career-changers/dp/1580089305

    It has been 5 years since I've finished high school and I haven't made up my mind yet. I don't even know if I should go to college or to vocational school. Visual arts and Social Sciences are subjects I'm into. But the job prospects in those fields aren't particularly attractive to me. Unless I can find a way to get the degree to really help people. 'Cause that's what I want the most: help people and be actually in contact with them, not help them through the computer or something like that. Is there any sort of meditation I can do to solve this? I can't afford a vocational guidance counselor...

  • @Rodrigo Thanks for that video! It was extraordinarily insightful! I think I want to be an artist... I can get a job - in retail or something - that isn't so bad and live off that. Yes! Thank you, my friend.

    @hermitwin Thank you, seems like a valuable read.
    Rodrigo
  • Join a temple that also trains you while you learn ie zen monastery that trains people in construction
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    What others have said. Volunteer in order to break into the industry. I am doing that currently. Graduated with a BS in Psychology and I am volunteering to tutor one-on-one for English and volunteering at a retirement home. It has taken me a long time to really find "myself," but begin with the basics. Go out there and volunteer and see where it takes you!
    Deepankar
  • LeonBasin said:

    What others have said. Volunteer in order to break into the industry. I am doing that currently. Graduated with a BS in Psychology and I am volunteering to tutor one-on-one for English and volunteering at a retirement home. It has taken me a long time to really find "myself," but begin with the basics. Go out there and volunteer and see where it takes you!

    You guys, if Leon can "find himself", anyone can! We've seen Leon go through lots of searching here. So if Leon can do it, there's hope for all of us! ;)

  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    Dakini said:

    LeonBasin said:

    What others have said. Volunteer in order to break into the industry. I am doing that currently. Graduated with a BS in Psychology and I am volunteering to tutor one-on-one for English and volunteering at a retirement home. It has taken me a long time to really find "myself," but begin with the basics. Go out there and volunteer and see where it takes you!

    You guys, if Leon can "find himself", anyone can! We've seen Leon go through lots of searching here. So if Leon can do it, there's hope for all of us! ;)

    Exactly! Been a journey! But it's definitely doable!!!:) Keep going you guys! We all have our answers and our "perfect lives."
  • Invincible_summerInvincible_summer Heavy Metal Dhamma We(s)t coast, Canada Veteran
    I was more or less in the same boat. I graduated with my B.A. 2 years ago, haven't started a career or anything yet. I was originally going towards ESL teaching, then applied for a Master's in Social Work (didn't get in), then considered urban planning, and now I'm juggling either going into elementary education or occupational therapy (leaning towards the latter).

    Even though I'm not even close to having a career yet, I wouldn't have even gotten to this point if I didn't volunteer in a long-term care facility and learn how much I liked working in therapeutic care. Or, in the case of education, volunteering with a children's group at a social service center and running workshops with them, "teaching" them about anger management, how to handle emotions, etc.
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