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Would you say buddha was a philosopher or just a spiritual seeker or a Psychologist??

zenmystezenmyste Veteran
edited January 2013 in General Banter
Obviously he was a spiritual seeker at first, i know that! But then what does that cone under ? A philosopher ? Or just a spiritual person?

What was he?

Comments

  • robotrobot Veteran
    Siddhartha was a seeker. Buddha was awake. He was a teacher.
  • BhanteLuckyBhanteLucky Alternative lifestyle person in the South Island of New Zealand New Zealand Veteran
    Why put people in boxes.
    blu3reetaiyaki
  • zenmystezenmyste Veteran
    robot said:

    Siddhartha was a seeker. Buddha was awake. He was a teacher.

    Teacher of wht?
  • zenmystezenmyste Veteran
    JamestheGiant said:

    Why put people in boxes.

    Because im interested!
  • robotrobot Veteran
    zenmyste said:

    robot said:

    Siddhartha was a seeker. Buddha was awake. He was a teacher.

    Teacher of wht?
    The path to the end of suffering, apparently.
  • BhanteLuckyBhanteLucky Alternative lifestyle person in the South Island of New Zealand New Zealand Veteran
    zenmyste said:

    JamestheGiant said:

    Why put people in boxes.

    Because im interested!
    Ok fair enough.
  • zenmystezenmyste Veteran
    robot said:

    zenmyste said:

    robot said:

    Siddhartha was a seeker. Buddha was awake. He was a teacher.

    Teacher of wht?
    The path to the end of suffering, apparently.
    Does the path to end suffering come unde anything? Is there a name for people who need to practice a path?
  • blu3reeblu3ree Veteran
    he was a human being teacher of the 4 noble truths the noble eightfold path
    buddhadhammasangha.com lectures on this website very easy to comprehend
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    He was a giver.

    He gave a philosophy to those who need it. He gave spirituality to those who need it.
    zenmysteNirvana
  • zenmystezenmyste Veteran
    Was the buddha spiritual ?
  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    edited January 2013
    What do you mean by spiritual? For me that means dealing with the mind/heart. If so Buddha was the master spiritualist of all time.
  • zenmystezenmyste Veteran
    This is what im trying to figure out... Many people say 'spirituality' is about 'god' or gods or higher power etc etc (more religious) !



  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Yeah Buddha taught that Gods were not enlightened and that they suffered. He gave teachings to devas quite often?
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran
    The Buddha was awake and awakened others. Quite an achievement. He used the tools from his experience and insight. How you define that is up to you.
  • vinlynvinlyn Colorado...for now Veteran
    JamestheGiant said:

    Why put people in boxes.

    It's just a natural instinct that man has...to classify things. And, most often it does no harm.

  • zenmystezenmyste Veteran
    lobster said:

    The Buddha was awake and awakened others. Quite an achievement. He used the tools from his experience and insight. How you define that is up to you.

    What i mean is; does what he teaches come under religion or a philosophy ?

    Is there a name for his way of thinking?
    Like self help?
    Psycology?
    Paycotherepy?
    Religion?

    What is it?????
  • genkakugenkaku Northampton, Mass. U.S.A. Veteran
    lobster said:

    The Buddha was awake and awakened others. Quite an achievement. He used the tools from his experience and insight. How you define that is up to you.

    @lobster -- Maybe it would be better to say that Gautama pointed people in ways that encouraged them to wake themselves up. Saying he awakened others strikes me as overstepping the facts. To the best of my knowledge, Buddhism does not teach Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy or any other miraculous wand-waving.

    lobster
  • vinlynvinlyn Colorado...for now Veteran
    zenmyste said:

    lobster said:

    The Buddha was awake and awakened others. Quite an achievement. He used the tools from his experience and insight. How you define that is up to you.

    What i mean is; does what he teaches come under religion or a philosophy ?

    Is there a name for his way of thinking?
    Like self help?
    Psycology?
    Paycotherepy?
    Religion?

    What is it?????
    I think you're trying to define it solely from what he as a teacher (for wont of a better word) was trying to do, when the answer is also partly how the recipient is handling it, which varies from person to person.

    JeffreyZero
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited January 2013
    zenmyste said:

    Obviously he was a spiritual seeker at first, i know that! But then what does that cone under ? A philosopher ? Or just a spiritual person?

    What was he?

    All of the above and more.
  • TalismanTalisman Veteran
    The Buddha is beyond such concepts as "philosopher" or "spiritual person". The Buddha is the exalted one, the tathaghata, the thus come one, the teacher of gods and men, the unexcelled and self-perfected one, the holy one, the arahant, the enlightened one, the awoken one. The Buddha is the epitome of perfection, having realized and uprooted all causes for defilement and suffering while perfecting the faculties necessary for expounding upon the Dhamma for the sake of those chained to the cycle of suffering and distress. And in his 50 year ministry he taught only two things, suffering and its cessation.
    Bunks
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran
    @lobster -- Maybe it would be better to say that Gautama pointed people in ways that encouraged them to wake themselves up.
    Yes indeed. A facilitator or at best an inducer of enlightenment. The idea of a perfect master is lazy, delusional and removing of self responsibility.

    Long live the flying spaghetti monster ;)
  • DeepankarDeepankar
    You have to ask your philosophical minds and what is it that seeking led you into psychologistic! And you will realize Buddha.
  • DakiniDakini Veteran
    edited January 2013
    zenmyste said:

    robot said:

    Siddhartha was a seeker. Buddha was awake. He was a teacher.

    Teacher of wht?
    The Dharma. The Way he had discovered. Personally, I view him as an early psychologist. The Dharma was the first self-help manual, in a way.

  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    robot said:

    Siddhartha was a seeker. Buddha was awake. He was a teacher.

    I double, triple this statement!
  • zenmystezenmyste Veteran
    Dakini said:

    zenmyste said:

    robot said:

    Siddhartha was a seeker. Buddha was awake. He was a teacher.

    Teacher of wht?
    I view him as an early psychologist. The Dharma was the first self-help manual, in a way.

    There you go! Thanks!
    Thats what i was asking!

    I think so too, i think he was a psychologist!
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran
    You might say a psychologist, today. Hindus sometimes consider the Buddha an epithany of Vishnu. Atheists regard him as a realist. Humanists a . . . have you guessed yet? . . . a humanist. Maybe a mirror, chameleon, receptacle, might be a useful consideration . . .
    Jeffrey
  • taiyakitaiyaki Veteran
    A doctor for the ill. Simple as that.
  • zenmystezenmyste Veteran
    taiyaki said:

    A doctor for the ill. Simple as that.


    Not politically correct , but ok, i 'see' what ur getting at!

    I still think psychologist is the correct word!

  • JeffreyJeffrey Veteran
    Trungpa Rinpoche said that Buddhism would come to the west through psychology.
    zenmyste
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