It will pass

lobster

Feeling bad.
It will pass. Feeling good. It will pass.
Feeling anything? It will pass.

Not even sure where I am.
It too will pass.

vinlyn

Lobster, is this thread about kidney stones?

lobster

vinlyn said:

Lobster, is this thread about kidney stones?

ow . . .
never had them.
I hope not.

It is about impermanence.

Nevermind

Will this gas pass?

Nirvana

This thread, too, will pass.

vinlyn

Or fail.

Bunks

vinlyn said:

Lobster, is this thread about kidney stones?

Apparently more painful than child birth........apparently.

jae

@Bunks ... that's fighting talk

jae

@lobster.... thank you x

anando

Hello,
yes it´s right. Everything that is build out of matter will pass, also our thinking and feeling, but this is only the first ego, there is a reals second self in each of us. This self
is surviving the physical death, and will or will never return to earth, depending on his
Karma. You don´t believe, ok, read Dighanikayo, where the Lightbeings come from.
anando

lobster

Some phrases are hijacked by New Age Dharmists. They are or sound trite. They are . . .

Unless we are ready to hear, acknowledge and digest the trite. Unless we become mindful and aware that dharma is all around . . .

I am off to talk to a tree or two . . .

DairyLama

Bunks said:

Apparently more painful than child birth........apparently.

Nothing's more painful than that.

vinlyn

Bunks said:

vinlyn said:

Lobster, is this thread about kidney stones?

Apparently more painful than child birth........apparently.

Having had one (or was it two?), I would say a kidney stone is worse since it occurs suddenly (or at least it did in my case) and you don't know why you have such searing pain. I thought I was dying...that something had ruptured inside...and I was in such intense pain I could not get to the telephone.

At least with pregnancy, you know you're pregnant (except for a few really dumb people who seem to not know that they are pregnant, even after being so for 9 months...I never quite understood that).

fivebells

I've seen that happen too, even with people who've had kids before. The only explanation which makes sense to me is willful ignorance.

how

I've had many nurses who have had children and kidneys stones say that child birth was the easier pain to bear.
Where I have with equanimity, excised the pressure of an infected root canal by prying out the filling above it with a needle, my kidney stones reduced me to a quivering puddle.

Hamsaka

@Nevermind said:
Will this gas pass?

Exactly my first thought when I saw the thread title. Then again, it could have been the lentil soup.

lobster

One of the reasons I practice is not to experience or avoid suffering. That comes and hopefully goes soon enough.
It is rather to be or one might say 'experience the passing'.

Will that pass?

anataman

@jae said:
Bunks ... that's fighting talk

Sorry to dispel a little myth, but as someone who has dealt with hundreds of people passing kidney stones, I regularly heard women bemoan it as more painful than giving birth, but I had a pretty good fix for the pain of kidney stones.

I didn't go in for obstetrics because labour just seems to go on and on and on but even that eventually passes.

anataman

Impermanence - a great teaching btw, it is written loudly upon everything I see...

Mettha

anataman

Anatta-lakkhana Sutta: The Discourse on the Not-self
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn22/sn22.059.mend.html

"What do you think of this, O monks? Is form permanent or impermanent?"
"Impermanent, O Lord."
"Now, that which is impermanent, is it unsatisfactory or satisfactory?"
"Unsatisfactory, O Lord."
"Now, that which is impermanent, unsatisfactory, subject to change, is it proper to regard that as: 'This is mine, this I am, this is my self'?"
"Indeed, not that, O Lord."
"What do you think of this, O monks? Is feeling permanent or impermanent?"
"Impermanent, O Lord."
"Now, that which is impermanent, is it unsatisfactory or satisfactory?"
"Unsatisfactory, O Lord."
"Now, that which is impermanent, unsatisfactory, subject to change, is it proper to regard that as: 'This is mine, this I am, this is my self'?"
"Indeed, not that, O Lord."
"What do you think of this, O monks? Is perception permanent or impermanent?"
"Impermanent, O Lord."
"Now, what is impermanent, is it unsatisfactory or satisfactory?"
"Unsatisfactory, O Lord."
"Now, that which is impermanent, unsatisfactory, subject to change, is it proper to regard that as: 'This is mine, this I am, this is my self'?"
"Indeed, not that, O Lord."
"What do you think of this, O monks? Are mental formations permanent or impermanent?"
"Impermanent, O Lord."
"Now, those that are impermanent, are they unsatisfactory or satisfactory?"
"Unsatisfactory, O Lord."
"Now, those that are impermanent, unsatisfactory, subject to change, is it proper to regard them as: 'They are mine, this I am, this is my self'?"
"Indeed, not that, O Lord."
"Now what do you think of this, O monks? Is consciousness permanent or impermanent?"
"Impermanent, O Lord."
"Now, what is impermanent, is that unsatisfactory or satisfactory?"
"Unsatisfactory, O Lord."
"Now, what is impermanent, unsatisfactory, subject to change, is it proper to regard it as: 'This is mine, this I am, this is my self'?"
"Indeed, not that, O Lord."

you too may become an arahant if you understand this teaching... The more the merrier I say! LOL

jae

@anataman...next life when you come back as a woman I'll believe you, this life for all your medical 'experience' I''m afraid you have no idea of what you are talking about (little stones, big stones, cardboard box, big babies, little babies)

wangchuey

Sandcastles are fun.

lobster

Sandcastles are fun.

Is 'fun' just another wave of preferred passing away sandcastles?

wangchuey

@lobster said:
Is 'fun' just another wave of preferred passing away sandcastles?

Fun passes the time