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The real implication of no self for me is....
MeisterBob
Mindful AgnathiestCT , USA Veteran
If I can't pinpoint the self I shouldn't take my self so seriously! Lol!
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"tale" ?,,,,, as in pinning the tail on the........ or the story of our specialness?
Love it.
@meisterbob -- Take yourself as seriously as you like. Seriously.
See how well that works.
Lol...never worked well for me.
I strike a serious pose - then wee myself laughing.
It's no good, I can't do it...
xx you guys . . . [lobster wipes away salty tear] . . .
When I was doing some training at Beshara, the first day I went up to a hill where a woman joined me and offered me a cigarette. We were standing she informed me, in the outdoor memorial of the founder. Some places, for example seikh temples, such smoking behaviour would be sacrilegious.
http://www.beshara.org/
No self in part, means not taking the tantrams [sic], statute [more sic] burning Zennies and the chant-your-way-to-nirvana seriously, disrespectfully or any other way . . .
Must be time for a silly dance off . . .
I take myself so seriously that I am the meaningless 'Thing King', you might need to think about that one! ... \ lol / ...
We are receptacles of incoming data.
The manipulation of that data is self.
Not manipulating that data is the absence of self.
Ya takes da dream or ya takes nothing.
I see what you did there.....
"Don't take yourself too damn seriously " is a slogan in my 12 step program....So it's a good correlation for me. Bob
I like the new avatar @federica... My daughter said are you the duck, the sun or the clouds... I said you were three in one. LOL. Did you see what I did with that one? Don't worry if you can't people It's all nonsense.
My wife was attending a day of teachings from her Lama..the three year old daughter of a fellow student asked her solemnly . " Are you the mouse ? ". Leaving my wife both amused and baffled..
Kia Ora,
"The real implication of no self for
meis...."Metta Shoshin
Only when we are not so full of ourselves, do we leave enough room to allow for some real learning to happen.
Nice.....you could add that to the Other Sayings thread.
Just a though. I wonder if most people who find a "spiritual ** "** path have big ego's to start? In my 12 step program that's the case -egomaniac's with inferiority complex's! lol!
kerching!
So.... Only when we are so full of ourselves and in enough pain do we crack the shell of our overinflated ego's just enough to let being enter...(or something like that) lol!
Not necessarily. It takes a humble acknowledgement of one's never-ending ability to learn (or our plain ignorance) to crack that shell. If you're too blinded by your science (and take yourself too seriously) that might never happen.
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Good idea.... @Che would like that....
Perhaps. From my experience thats why the pain often needs to be great. Unfortunately in a 12th step program some peoples pain is never great enough and they go on in misery to the end or die. ...
That's why I mentioned "humble acknowledgement of one's never-ending ability to learn." Some people wallow in their misery or are simply stuck in it because they can't even begin to warm up to the possibility that there might be another way to see or do things. In this case, they take their misery too seriously.
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment."
Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.
I like to say "My affliction is my salvation" In other words without the disease of alcoholism I may not have found a mindful path.
True.
Or as Buddhaghosa said" Karma-vipaka is this one's driver towards enlightenment ".
Maybe. I'm not sure if your meaning in a literal sense or more figuratively. Either way I suppose I'm agnostic in a karma-vipaka sense...at the moment. ( from the quick bit I just researched about it anyways. I may not have enough information to formulate an "opinion")
That never stopped anyone...
But I think Buddhghosa was speaking absolutely literally.
Lol! Didn't say it did!
Thanks for the clarification! I tend to be non definitive with the unknowable. That's just me though....it doesn't make it untrue of course.
It was a joke Bob. Unfortunately I can't get the smilies to work, or I would have put the smile one after 'anyone'.
Buddhaghosa in another place says ' karmma is my way of going beyond '
Which in my view points to a kind of proto-tantra.
Guess I got it cause I laughed! Unfortunately you lost me with the proto-tantra... ...
... I'll look it up later.
Samsara
Nirvana
Same taste
....different salad dressing.....