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Mountains of Dung

Tony_A_SimienTony_A_Simien Veteran
edited December 2015 in Buddhism Today

Mountains of Dung

"There are a lot of monks in Bangkok now, and a lot of them are senior monks –‘the big toilets’. They teach their disciples to accumulate power, and they use their rank and titles to bait them in. Those senior monks are the ones who have the authority to give out titles or promote a monk and they have the power take them away as well. 

Given this, they have the bait at hand to catch fish. If there was just the hook, the fish wouldn’t bite. There has to be a bait on the tip of the hook. So these monks hand out the bait  -  a deputy abbot here, a secretarial position there. Do you see it, here, a Phra Kru or this or that level of Chao Khun; that’s what they offer. All this is just bait of the kilesas to catch the fish. 

Just look at that!

From Chao Khun climbing up to become a Somdet (Supreme Patriarch). The higher they climb, the bigger the heap of piss and shit is getting and once one gets  to Somdet, it’s as big as a mountain. That’s whatthese high senior dignitaries are: nothing but filled up monk toilets. They  don’t contain a trace of the Dhamma, that the Lord Buddha taught to all living being. For this is not Dhamma, it’s nothing other  than being parasites. 

Parasites of the most dangerous kind, who destroy their own hearts, that in the beginning had some aspiration towards Dhamma, and turn them into nothing but 
excrement. 

To allow these things to fill their hearts, turns them into sewers and their hearts become filled up monk toilets!

Whatever monastery that they go to, that monastery will become a sewer. The monks and novices there will become sewage and behave themselves like crap and piss. Finally 
this monastery will contain nothing but monk toilets. Although the monastery will be full of monks and novices, there will be nothing but excrement throughout. 

What then would you like people to pay their respects to?

This certainly isn’t the way of the Lord Buddha.  Right now this sort of thing is developing. Monks are infatuated with creating status and titles to award themselves in order to strengthen their power.Then they use it  to tread on and destroy the Dhamma. All these things are fakes, and nothing but crap and piss!

The genuine Dhamma, as taught by the Lord Buddha, is pure gold. He sent his disciples off to live in the forests and mountains, in order to dig out this pure gold to guide their hearts. It’s only with this, that peace and coolness can envelop this world and it’s not due to any heaps of sewage, like titles or fame!

But at the moment, these people are eager to 
establish these titles and use them in the group of people who have these lewd, ignoble and evil desires, in order to gain power. They promote him to that position to possess this kind of clerical power and in this way trample all over the teachings of the Lord Buddha until nothing of it will remain. 

One attacks the monks, who practice willingly 
and well, be it in the mountains or in the forest, and accuses them of being mad.

Is there anything like this in the Lord Buddha’s Dhamma?"

~Luangta Maha Bua Nanasampanno

Source:

Only we can take care of our citta

Cinorjer

Comments

  • I loved reading that cantankerous old monk's sermon. Thanks for sharing.

    Vastmindlobster
  • An old saying, oft repeated and oft ignored, "Follow the Law, not the Person"
    You can substitute 'The Dharma' or 'The Way'...but the idea is the same.

    Peace to all

  • seeker242seeker242 Zen Florida, USA Veteran

    @Tony_A_Simien said:
    Is there anything like this in the Lord Buddha’s Dhamma?"

    Yes, it's called "Samsara", ha!

    VastmindCinorjer
  • Tony_A_SimienTony_A_Simien Veteran
    edited December 2015

    @seeker242

    That's not what he meant by asking that question. He meant, is this How the Lord Buddha taught his disciples to practice the Dhamma in order to attain peace.

    Of course it's samsara. The monks that he speaks of were acting like thugs. Which is not what the Buddha taught. This is what he meant.

  • Any teaching or philosophy, any idea, can be twisted into incomprehension by the 'thugs' of the world.
    Buddhism is no exception. Monks and priests/nuns are people. They are subject to the same weaknesses as everybody else. Abuse of position or authority/power is all too easy when one forgets or ignores that realty. It is unfortunate that it is not just arrogant priests and monks. The greater the power, the greater the caution or humbleness must be applied.
    Historic point: Napoleon rose when he listened to his Sergeants and fell when he stopped listening.

    Peace to all

    Cinorjer
  • seeker242seeker242 Zen Florida, USA Veteran

    @Tony_A_Simien said:
    @seeker242

    That's not what he meant by asking that question.

    I'm aware of that, hence the HA! :)

  • Beware of spiritual materialism - the I am holier("better") than you attitude. The "I am" conceit is to be abandoned. There is a story of monks fighting over who gets to wear the most tattered looking robes.

    "'This body comes into being through conceit. And yet it is by relying on conceit that conceit is to be abandoned.' Thus was it said. And in reference to what was it said? There is the case, sister, where a monk hears, 'The monk named such-and-such, they say, through the ending of the fermentations, has entered & remains in the fermentation-free awareness-release & discernment-release, having known & realized them for himself in the here & now.' The thought occurs to him, 'The monk named such-and-such, they say, through the ending of the fermentations, has entered & remains in the fermentation-free awareness-release & discernment-release, having known & realized them for himself in the here & now. Then why not me?' Then he eventually abandons conceit, having relied on conceit. 'This body comes into being through conceit. And yet it is by relying on conceit that conceit is to be abandoned.' Thus was it said, and in reference to this was it said.

    http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an04/an04.159.than.html

    Cinorjer
  • MetaphasicMetaphasic NC, USA Explorer

    I cringed at "Lord" Buddha.

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    It's just a term of respect, like "Your Honour" or "M'Lady". It doesn't denote an acknowledgment of an omnipotent eternal being....

    DhammikaCinorjer
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