... from another thread ...
Reading books from Meister Eckhart and the desert fathers I stumbled over this hymn,
many of their teachings are similar to buddhism
"To be full of things is to be empty of God.
To be empty of things is to be full of God".
I am amazed by Roshi Eckhart and his influence. Also the dessert mothers, who famously never said, 'Let them eat cake' (Hope it is fish cake)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Mothers
Is being full of Cod too fishy for you? Do you prefer running on empties? Do you prefer yidam practice and multiple imaginary gods?
“I am the great and glorious Heruka!
My food is the life-force of living beings,
My seat, the three worlds and three planes of existence.
I am the Lama. I am the Yidam.
I am Samantabhadra, the mighty Vajradhara.
Without me, in the time before me,
There was no saṃsāra, no transcendence.
Now, the phenomena of saṃsāra and nirvāṇa
Are all perfect within me, the great Heruka.
The blazing fire mountain is my realm.
The vīras and ḍākinīs are my retinue.
The Great Perfection is my Dharma.
I am the Heruka of equalness and perfection.”
http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-masters/khenpo-shenga/advice-on-yidam
Ay caramba!
Comments
The world delights in conceptual proliferation (papanca).
Buddhas delight in the ending of that (nippapanca)
https://tricycle.org/magazine/tangled-thought/
Being a bit fishy myself I would say I have a fin in both camps! You have great links by the way @Lobster
Emptiness is not always beneficial ive found. Last time I was trying to design and write a PR flyer I found my mind was totally empty... except for some mental tumbleweeds... it did not help in the process. So beware emptiness
That's not emptiness.... that's mindlessness.... Empty of thought does not mean empty of mind, it means an absence of concentration..
That's not to say it was your fault, @Kerome . It happens to us all....
indeed ... mind full of crap is even worse. Yes, that is the voice of experience
In the early stages we create or fill space with better options. For example I no longer think of fish for no reason, unless somone mentions Buddhas, Dharma ... then I think of fish ... ?
Useless mind wandering, attachment to monkey mind is no use, it is dukkha.
Mind meandering is no substitute for the concentrated awareness @federica express mentions ...
Do not think of a fish riding an elephant ... oops ... It is ... too late ... ... and now back to better links ...
This is a picture of an empty cake:
No, it isn't..... It's a picture of a cake tin, containing greaseproof paper that once wrapped around a cake. Which is now gone, consumed, disposed of.
Said the pedant.
Officiously.
I wouldn't be so sure, necessarily, @federica.
Some say that the self is as empty as the cake above.
Here is another empty cake:
They don't seem to have a lot in common, though, these two cakes.
Some people say that both of the cakes are exactly the same.
Wow that cake looks good. I'll be ok without it though.
Wait, do you mean to say I have to concentrate AND be mindlessly empty? And here I thought concentration always meant concentration on something...
It's no good. Please hand me a slice of not-cake. With extra not-cream.
Not-calories.
Don't you just love 'em....?
Tee Hee.
Object orientated focus/concentration meditation is often preparatory. For example concentration on a lama, mantra, physical posture, walking mindfully or very commonly, 'The Breath'.
The awareness and concentration of 'The Emptiness'/stillness/non-being is a result of our developing a clearing of mind clutter ...
Iz no-plan ... and now back to baking ...