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JaySon
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in Philosophy
You exist in name only.
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Not even in that.
If you share a name with others, are you the same existence or different?
So then who wrote that? Can a mere name make a forum post? How?
I don' exist. The Pope doesn't exist. Nothing = nothing. Therefore, I am the Pope.
what exactly is your point in posting this topic?
Sounds to me a bit extremist. There are always two sides to the matter of existence.
I'm not sure what you're trying to do, or get at...
From moment to moment, its a changing existence. Not same, not different.
The point is to ask the question I asked. Question asking is an age old practice in chan style buddhist traditions. And it's a very valuable practice. What you are trying to get at with such questions is who you really are, you're true nature, buddha nature, etc.
Twaddle!
As I once heard quoted in an episode of Babylon Five 'the universe put us here to make sense of itself.' Good luck with that, universe, says I!
Moderator note:
My apologies, I mis-quoted.
I was intending to refer to the original question at the head of the thread, I wasn't meaning to ask you...
But my question still stands. If the posing of the question has a significance, an objective, the questioner should say so.
While I realise this is in the 'Philosophy' thread, I'm finding it difficult to differentiate between the trivial unnecessary and pointless enquiries and the poignant, deep meaningful ones.
It's not always a fun, breezy walk in the park, being a Moderator.
Tee Hee.
Good quote. Well said. That is also a dervish teaching.
I wonder where in the universe ...
http://www.rumi.org.uk/poems.html#TheTrueSufi
Strangely enough sense and bewilderment are close ...
That had to be either Delen or Lenier ??
Loved that show. I share a birthday with Mira Furla/Delenn.
It was Delen @kundo, great character, loved the show too @Jason - we are star stuff! (also Delenn)
Brilliant, brilliant Rumi - great link @lobster, I feel that new buddhist at its best is a great field for meetings
am reading a lot of Cid Corman at present and like this too,
"Poetry becomes
The conversation
We could not
otherwise have'
I have a sneaky feeling this discussion has spatially veered in a direction hitherto unforeseen by @JaySon ... There you go pal - make a blatant statement, and all sorts of replies ensue!!
Is Plan
Other wise
is ways less more
Be wise in Ways
Unspoken
Loudly
Names exist. Does that mean "you" exist, then?
What's in a name ?
"I" answer to the name "Shoshin Clinging Aggregates" clinging to name clinging by nature
The Artist formerly known as @JaySon...?
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Sounds neat but it isn't very practical, logical or realistic.
It isn't very practical because your individuality is what makes you useful and so it seems like a kind of refusal to use the tools you are given.
When it comes to figuring out a problem, it is often said that two heads are better than one. Looking at it this way, we have hit the big time. Ignoring this and trying to shun the self goes against the grain of natural diversity. We are unique aspects of the same process but conformity is impossible as no one can share another's exact perspective.
We could dismiss suffering and everything else as just so much nothing with our proverbial heads in the sand but I relate it to the two arrows. Pretending the first arrow never hit is just the second arrow in disguise.
It isn't very logical as most people here will be following the 8FP as well as our understanding and determination will allow. If we existed in name only then suffering would exist in name only and so no diligence required to extinguish it.
However, the first NT is that there is indeed suffering. Implying that existence is illusion posits non existence being tricked into thinking it exists. It just doesn't make any sense.
If I call myself someone else's name will I know how they feel?
Are you typing this right now or just reading it?
It isn't very realistic because it is the labels that only exist for our convenience, not the other way around. And of course we like to turn conveniences into necessities thereby getting hooked into believing we are the labels and thoughts we are actually using as tools.
In the way I see it at the moment, our existence is not the illusion, seperation is the illusion but it is a tool of exploration. Our individual stream of thoughts is not even the individual self but a tool within a tool that we can master through the practice of meditation.
By Thanissaro Bhikkhu
https://tricycle.org/magazine/there-no-self/?utm_source=fb