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Attending NKT meditation/events - feel uncomfortableHi there, I'm new Before I start
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My integrity isn't on the line here, and I resent that accusation. You brought up the topic of the Dalai Lama's passing "ending the debate," which I interpreted as your endorsement that this would happen.
This doesn't make sense. I think it's different to say you hope the dispute will be resolved than to say it will be resolved by the Dalai Lama's death. Your intention was not clear, and I don't appreciate being insulted for my interpretation.
Wow, that's messed up. I guess that trying to have an open discussion and explore the facts at hand is considered trying to "win" a debate. The only person here who appears to be concerned with "winning" is the one who is personally attacking the motives and integrity of those who point out different aspects of the issue.
I personally do not want to win anything, so if you consider this some kind of contest you can just declare yourself the winner right now and stop posting on this thread.
I was referring to the beginning of said quote:
yes, this is true. Poor Lama Zopa must break wiht the tradition of his root guru Lama Yeshe in order to follow the restirictions set by DL.
he also publically advises those who have a relationship wiht Dorje Shugden lamas such as geshe Kelsang to keep their relationship and keep following their advice. Shows how much he actually agrees with the ban, huh?
this is incorrect and there is abundant photographic and video evidence to prove it. I will provide this upon request.
It is different becasue he is functioning as a head of state with political powers and motivations. if he were actually stating his recommendations and letting people follow their wisdom, I think you would have a good point.
Even if they haven't....and they have, but i have no time to prove it now, happy to discuss tomorrow....shouldn't the government speak out against violence perpetrated upon a subset of their people?
why can't you find one instance of this? DL saying "don't hurt them." or the notices saying the ycannot come into this hospital should be removed," etc.
it's an important point!
no more time today, maybe see you tomorrow....
Hopefully not, if you're going to continue throwing around baseless accusations and personal attacks when people are trying to explore the topic and find the truth.
For the record, I said that the issue was complex. Violence against anyone for their beliefs, including Shugden practitioners, is wrong.
One should also remember Lama zopa's root guru Lama yeshe died a Dorje shugden practitoner.
Yes. I was only pointing out that Lama Zopa is adhering to the Dalai Lama's instructions. Nothing more.
In my opinion, this entire discussion is going in circles.
As ever, if anyone has anything of significant note to add, which would improve and take the discussion forward, let me know.
Otherwise, I bid you all good night.
Cocoa in the kitchen......