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What we eat and drink, changes our DNA, our genes. I personally do not believe in any way that eating stuff that is genetically altered, does good things for our DNA. I don't think that huge uptick in food allergies and sensitivities is unrelated to the proliferation of GMO crops. I can't back that up, nor do I care to. It's just a sense that I have, at least about my own particular body and when it comes to those senses about myself, I'm usually right.
I consider the complete lack of testing of GMO foods and the accountability level to be ridiculous. The same government that lies to us over and over again wants us to trust it about our food supply? Not hardly. I avoid them as much as I can without knowing where exactly they are. We grow our garden from seeds that have been passed through our family for generations so those I know are not GMO. I trust my garden. I mostly trust what we get from our neighbors. I certainly don't trust corporations or government in regards to what I put in my body that alters it.
Its part of the rise of a new ' religion ' of irrationality that has been called Green Gnosticism.
Its a dead end. Tinkering around the edges of samsara.
In a hundred years it will all seem as quaint as James Thurber's aunt who plugged things into any empty socket to stop the electricity leaking out.
And full marks to the Co-op for refusing to support this idiocy.
My point is that with issues like fracking, it's easy for us to get self-absorbed and think the US is the only place with environmental problems. We're not. There are huge issues around the world. And, in many places, there's relatively little awareness of environmental concerns. It's a constant struggle.
There are a number of inconvenient truths which are heresy to devotees of Green Gnosticism.
I realise this. But what to do ?
Also the air pollution depends on where you live in Thailand vinlyn, when they do the burnings in Chang Mai yes that is one place that has air pollution issues, but even there it is not over the entire city. Bangkok obviously but I steer clear of that place for many reasons. Other cities have a few issues but on the coast it is nice and also in most rural areas. The cars newer cars and bikes now are fitted with better filters as well.
Tap water, I do not know anybody here who drinks the tap water, I have cleaned my rice with it a few times and I wash my dishes with it daily and I have rarely been ill and if I was, it was probably due to withdraw from medication.
So things are not as bad as you depict here I would say. I have noticed that places like Thailand do not cover up what follies their government makes as well as the West, so it could be that many of the things going on the the EU and the Us are worse, but you just know very little about what is going on. Like the OP said, he did not know the US passed a bill that now allows farmers to feed their cattle fracking run-off.
Anyhow, if a law has actually been passed giving the entire US permission to use fracking water to feed farm animals I haven't been able to find it.
sure, but spare at thought for the poor farmers in India who are committing suicide
thanks to GM seeds.
fracking is harmless, unless you are living
in the area where it is carried out.
would you buy a house right above where fracking is going on?
In terms of fracking, I'm not sure anyone on this forum is disagreeing with you.
@citta most of the genetic modification that is done goes toward making the crops more resistant to ready up round up spraying them more and more obviously isn't going to help if spraying it once didn't work the first time. plus the crops are breeding with weeds and creating weeds that are resistant to the roundup. on top of this is the soil that gets polluted from the spray even the most careful sprayer cant avoid rain washing the poison off the leaf into the ground.
i remember on the Dr. Oz show earlier this year they had a debate on GM crops had people for and against it one of the ladies pro GMO said if the public wants to not eat GM products they can eat organic foods. which is kind of ignorant to the fact that the average family probably cannot eat organic because of its cost.
I am asking because it is becomming an issue isn sweden since some here want the honey to be marked GMO or "Clean"...
/Victor
in high school we watched netflix for our health class and watched the video about GMO/processed foods the name of the movie i do not know.
easy eat organic if you cant afford organic call the supplier of the food your eating ask them if their food is gmo and or sprayed with pesticides.
or
start your own farm so then you know how your food is being handled having bug problems? start a greenhouse depending on your climate you may need thicker walls but for the most part they can be build for around 300-x depending on how big you want it.
why worry when you can make a change.
@ThailandTom yes, but no where in that article does it say whatsoever that the "US passed a law." The US did not pass a law. The EPA (which does not pass laws) made a decision to issue permits mostly for a very small area of the state of Wyoming. Not surprisingly, on a Native American reservation when it would not fly on most other lands in the US. So, yes, it's still a horrible thing. But that doesn't mean all of a sudden all the farms in the US are going to use fracking water to feed their animals. Far from it. No law was passed. A government agency issuing a small # of permits doesn't mean they passed a law.
Round Up Ready GMO crops cost a fortune to keep. The seeds are expensive, like 3 times as much as a normal seed. RoundUp is REALLY expensive, and then on top of that, you have to keep buying seeds because most of the plants produced from the GMO seeds are sterile, so you cannot just keep the seeds from the plants and then plant them yourself the following year.
One of my closest friends worked for many years in the international finance dept at Cargill. And people think Walmart is the epitomy of evil.
Get Enlightened.
as of now geothermal heating is expensive but there are government rebates for those who have the money up front to get them.
cant have a greenhouse because my yard doesnt receive enough sun and my dad probably wouldnt let me.
@karasti it would help keep it warm if some of the greenhouse was under the ground.
The chances of a protein from a GM crop being harmful to you are the same as for any other protein, in fact it's safer, as the scientists who create these organisms will test the proteins they wish to incorporate for toxicity, something that doesn't happen for non-GM foods.
Which is why people still eat button mushrooms raw, despite them being carcinogenic uncooked or runner beans which are packed with hydrogen cyanide and so need cooking thoroughly.
I agree with Citta, I think most arguments against GM crops are based on emotion, specifically fear of the unknown.
and that animals fed gmos can only live a certain length of time before their bodies start shutting down?
I don't think that I, in any way, painted multinational corporations as being multiwonderful. That's why I said "more balanced". Or is it bad to read additional information about the topic that more fully informs?
I misunderstood the part that compares suicide rates between farmers and the rest of the population, I see what you mean now.