I'm sorry.... WHAT - ?!
Reality and peoples realities are in flux. There are good people here. Good intentions. I have taken and am taking a long time to create something of 'spiritual' value.
Sense and what emerges is part of the journey. Wot is a good question. As is @how and link aka #Linc. The truth is I do not know what...
@Jeroen said:
Osho’s view was of a natural, everyday man. He thought sex was fine and healthy and promoting love and wholeness, offering a path to super consciousness even, but he also thought overt sexuality and porn were ugly and should be avoided. There were a lot of beautiful women in the communes, they were very woman-friendly places, but there was little makeup or perfumes. A lot of them were into natural beauty.He taught that one shouldn’t compare… if the body is unsatisfactory, then compared to what? The body just is, it is the temple of your awareness on this Earth, it is the gift that was given to you when you arrive on this planet.
That is just a view, opinion, and belief.
The Vikings believed that if you die in a battle, you will be reborn as a god warrior in Valhalla.
The Romans and Greeks had theirs.
Flat earthers, conspiracists, Christians (Protestants, Catholics, Orthodox), and even Buddhists.
Ugly or beautiful already involves comparison. It is an idea only.
Asubha also means not beautiful (ie not ugly too).
Mangala Sutta: Blessings
"Not to associate with the foolish,[5] but to associate with the wise; and to honor those who are worthy of honor — this is the greatest blessing.
To reside in a suitable locality,[6] to have done meritorious actions in the past and to set oneself in the right course[7] — this is the greatest blessing.
To have much learning, to be skillful in handicraft,[8] well-trained in discipline,[9] and to be of good speech[10] — this is the greatest blessing.
To support mother and father, to cherish wife and children, and to be engaged in peaceful occupation — this is the greatest blessing.
To be generous in giving, to be righteous in conduct,[11] to help one's relatives, and to be blameless in action — this is the greatest blessing.
To loathe more evil and abstain from it, to refrain from intoxicants,[12] and to be steadfast in virtue — this is the greatest blessing.
To be respectful,[13] humble, contented and grateful; and to listen to the Dhamma on due occasions[14] — this is the greatest blessing.
To be patient and obedient, to associate with monks and to have religious discussions on due occasions — this is the greatest blessing.
Self-restraint,[15] a holy and chaste life, the perception of the Noble Truths and the realisation of Nibbana — this is the greatest blessing.
A mind unruffled by the vagaries of fortune,[16] from sorrow freed, from defilements cleansed, from fear liberated[17] — this is the greatest blessing.
Those who thus abide, ever remain invincible, in happiness established. These are the greatest blessings."[18]
@Jeroen said:
@person said:
I think people here are wise and experienced enough to avoid the cults. But I'll say for any lurkers or potential Googlers, that in addition to good teachers there are a lot of toxic, harmful teachers and groups one can uncritically give their love and trust to that will lead to misery.In my early spiritual years I knew someone who claimed a guru she followed harmed her psychically and she was now in a physically drained and disabled state. Sogyal Rinpoche, Sasaki Roshi, Asaram Bapu, Jim Jones, etc, etc.
It’s very arguable whether the Osho movement is a cult. It is said that the characteristics of a cult include that they make it difficult to leave and with Osho that’s totally not true, people are free to come and go as they please.
Something for your reflection. I said you were lucky to have been raised in Osho's commune rather than David Koresh's and none of the abusive guru's I listed were Osho. So any imputation of that sentiment in my words solely comes from your own psyche. I imagine the cult label has been thrown at you at times through your life. I'm just saying its probably a place in need of healing and growth.
I came across this, a half-hour documentary on the life of Thich Nhat Hanh with a lot of historical context. The end I found particularly touching. Hope you will enjoy it!