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Re: Funny Stuff
A young couple, intending to shortly marry, are involved in a fatal car accident. They find themselves sitting by the Pearly gates, waiting admission. They lament the fact that a week hence, they would have been married, so when Peter comes along, clipboard in hand, to welcome them in, they ask him, "could we please get married in Heaven?"
St Peter, doesn't know, but says, "wait here, I'll go find out..." and he scurries off.
The couple wait one month... then two months... and the woman turns to her fiancé and says, "what if it doesn't work out? What if, after a few years, we find we've made a mistake, and want to divorce?!"
They sit on the question for yet another month, and then St Peter returns, beaming.
"Yes!" He declares, jubilant, "we can marry you in Heaven!"
The couple are delighted, then the young man asks, "What if, eventually, we decide to divorce?"
St Peter throws down his clipboard angrily, and yells at the couple,
"It's taken me 3 months to find a priest in this place, how long do you think it will take me to find a bloody lawyer?!"
federica
Re: Where Angels and other angles Fear to thread... or tread
@lobster said:
When I was a young krill, I had a liking for Esoteric Christianity
Learning about the rose bud, the Rose Cross and other alternative forms of x-tianity...I trained with this group, they had meetings in London but never visited their main temple. Their material on hermetic alchemy and other topics is still on going...
https://logon.media/
I had a quick peek at their website, it looked fairly harmless.
I wasn’t serious about starting a religion, I think maybe we should try emptying our cup first.
Jeroen
Re: Wim Hof - Feel the Cold and do it Anyway
I've fallen off the cold shower bandwagon recently, haven't done one in a few months even though the water doesn't get near cold enough this time of year (about 20C).
I think I've lost some of the will to do it, and I'm enjoying the warmth and ease of a hotter shower.
Though if I had any sense I'd use the opportunity of the revelations against Hof to use that as my reason and elevate myself in the eyes of others, and perhaps even convince myself, as being noble in refusing to follow the recommendations of the wicked. What a good boy am I. 😏
person
Re: Wim Hof - Feel the Cold and do it Anyway
@federica said:
Aren't there more facets to a diamond we are admiring, than the one which has currently caught our eye?
While I am all for the exposure and public being informed of a person 's nefarious or shady character, it's always worth remembering that sensationalism sells, and that sometimes, reporters don't "let the truth get in the way of a good story"....
Yeah, it seems that currently there is a tendency (in the media, in the public, in the social-media...) to first build people up and then tear them down. Both the initial building up and consequent tearing down is probably exaggerated and unrealistic.
With people being teared down (a.k.a. "cancelled") my personal solution has been to adopt the mindset that as long as 95% of things that the person is saying sound reasonable and true and helpful to me or society AND there have not been any gross misdemeanours, then I continue to listen to that person and consider him/her my teacher of sorts. If I was looking for 100% I would cancel everyone I know, including myself. 
Now I'm thinking that I should be a bit more skeptical also in the building up phase.
Even Buddhist teachers fall into these considerations. With Zen Masters, it's come to the point where I'm shocked and elated whenever I find one who does NOT have proved or insinuated (usually power/sex/money) allegations.
Seems like - DOH! - we are all human after all, fallible and imperfect.
I think in large part it comes down to honesty and transparency and acknowledging and fulfilling the expectations that the person has forwarded themselves. For instance, Wim could have done well to admit his past heavy drinking and emotional dark place, if that was the case. People would have responded positively to that. At least I would. ZM's could talk about the difficulties of being celibate and either disrobe or work to change the rules so that people know what the deal is and that they are not unnecessarily harmed.
marcitko
Re: Wim Hof - Feel the Cold and do it Anyway
Aren't there more facets to a diamond we are admiring, than the one which has currently caught our eye?
While I am all for the exposure and public being informed of a person 's nefarious or shady character, it's always worth remembering that sensationalism sells, and that sometimes, reporters don't "let the truth get in the way of a good story"....
federica
Re: Letting go of games
Have no fear I speak Buddha-pseud: 
Hired vibratoring is new age-age for ‘chakra opening’. In the smallest or tightest wheel and the ravadin, the mind/top chakra is opened. If a genuine opening it will lead to multiple realisations and without Sangha or guidance can lead to self over confidence in ones understanding. Like wot I haz…
For example: a focus on lower chakras (body) can lead to pride in yogic contortionism, heightened sex driven interest. A heart based opening can result in servile devotion to everything… and so on.
What is important is not samadhi or supposed wisdom/enlightenment but genuine, continual path walking…
…or you can just go shopping…
https://www.meditation-newcastle.org/about/our-shop
lobster
Re: Ten years of wisdom
@lobster said:
Everybody is either dead, dying, changing or doing well and all three.
It strikes me that death is the ultimate deconditioning. All the old things you believed… or loved… or created, are consigned to forgetfulness eventually.
Jeroen
Re: Random Thoughts
That is how tyrants gain power - through 'Simple" solutions that are wrong, false, misleading, misdirecting.
Lionduck