Well, I was wrong. When casually reading this thread over the past few months I thought: "at least I don't have that problem". Ay carumba, I just realized I do. Not the first time this has happened. So, I join the letting-go-of-games circle.
The thought that I am free of the negative aspects of games was not totally deluded - I was really not playing much during this time so forgot or felt there was no danger going forward. But my "thing" is that I periodically get "hooked" for a few days or even weeks and then go overboard, negatively impacting my sleep, duties, relationships, state of mind etc. With all the dopamine-dumping from the gaming I later feel like shit. What a clear example of chasing pleasure leading to suffering. Ugh. (is it obvious that I just had a relapse?)
Some preliminary thoughts:
I think going forward I'll try to just not play games - and focus on my actual life - instead of analysing it too much.
We are not the first, nor will we be the last to have a brush with addiction. Whether it’s games or alcohol it can hook you and convince you that ‘more is better’. I loved @genkaku’s down to earth wisdom on this.
I think going forward I'll try to just not play games - and focus on my actual life - instead of analysing it too much.
A sound plan. Until it really penetrates that games are just an expression of mind, an inaccurate abstraction of something that is pretending to be real but is not, and then you can really let go. If you can let go of the idea of winning then you’ve made a big step.
My experiments with mindful playing have also largely stopped. I still have not played recently either a computer game or D&D, all of it was just stuff coming back up from when I used to play. Once in a while I return in my thoughts to it, just to unfold it a little further.
Gaming is not necessarily negative for everyone. @person seems to have found a happy way forward with it, and my cousin uses it to unwind for a few hours a week. And the social aspect of pen and paper Dungeons and Dragons is a major redeeming feature. But for me, the things I am most drawn to are the things that are least healthy — MMORPGs and compulsive strategy games such as Civilisation or Panzer General for example.
Jeroen
"The Buddha said that karma is intention. In other words, the important point is not so much what we do, but why we are doing it, in other words, our motivation."
~Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo~
Shoshin1
I like the Mexican idea of a Dias de los Muertos. Kinda egalitarian, do all the dead in one sweep. But it sounds like a good party!
Jeroen
I’ve been in a reflective mood and revisiting some of my old posts, seeing what new things I would like to add, as a lot of these topics are cyclical. Here’s the original post from 2020:
https://newbuddhist.com/discussion/26453/the-nine-contemplations-of-atisha
To recap, Atisha stated the body was fragile, death was inevitable, and nothing could help. It’s a great meditation for bringing home the immediacy of life, bringing you into the present moment (which is all there ever is). It also focuses you on the spiritual life as the one thing that can possibly help.
But there I think we go astray. Priests since time immemorial have traded upon the afterlife, getting people to do things in today’s world in return for favours in the afterlife. But there is no hard evidence for such things, the mists of psychedelic vision are notoriously fickle and full of illusion. I’m no longer inclined to believe priests, or their asking after real-world payments.
Where does that leave us, with no well defined afterlife or cosmology? Well, it seems to me the result of the death contemplation is to focus on living life. Trade in money for free time, enjoy life, live a little. It may be better to go on a bicycle ride around the forest on a sunny day than to spend time in the office, you never know how many good days you have left.
Jeroen
Like so many others:
I dos a lot
I dont's a lot
I stumbles a lot
I gets up
I dusts myself off
What a view from this mountain top
What's that?
Another mountain?
Let's go!
Keep an open mind
Keep an open heart
Presevere
' If all things that came before your eyes were agreeable, and all sounds that met your ears were pleasant, your whole life would be poisoned and wasted'
this is among my favorite sayings, but, embarrassingly, I can not now remember its source. As a matter of fact, I do not even accurately recall precisely how it is worded - the 'poisoned and wasted' part is all I am completely certain about. If anyone can fill in the blanks, I'd be much obliged if they did so.
Fosdick
This morning, I found myself trying to explain my position on games to a group of older people online who knew next to nothing about games. To my surprise, almost the first thing I found myself talking about was how games fulfil dreams — that for almost every dream there was a game out there — and that they can be a great way to experience stories and myth.
I found myself drawing on my memories of the high points of my gaming life, to explain the reasons people play and the kind of things games teach… the universal game themes of strategy, sequence, tactics, reward and challenge, resource useage. The building blocks of a game experience. And how the real high points have nothing to do with actual gaming but with progressing the story.
One thing a gaming life leaves you with is the memory of having been part of some great stories, of having seen myths play out with your character centre stage. Yes, it’s entertainment, but is it really that different from a book, a theatre play or a movie? It seems to me that this is part of the shared mythological experience of our time, the campfire stories of a technological age.
All this is leaving aside the endless killing of enemies which most games encourage to fill up their game loops, which is deplorable in my opinion. But it is endemic from open-world games such as Shadow of the Tomb Raider to story-driven adventures such as Mass Effect, they all use this paradigm.
Jeroen
“There are no impediments to meditation. The very thought of such obstacles is the greatest impediment.”
— Ramana Maharshi
Jeroen
“Just because you are seeing divine light, experiencing waves of bliss, or conversing with Gods and Goddesses is no reason to not know your zip code. Keeping it together means keeping conscious at all levels—all planes—with no attachment to any of them.”
— Ram Dass, Be Here Now
Jeroen