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I think we have the right guy finally...
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He is older than MCain? I don't get it?
"These clips don't reveal the real truth: Fox news not only spun it, they lied. They originally played the 2010 poll result announcement at the end of CPAC. That clip had some boos and some cheers. Later Fox said it was a "mistake" and played the 2011 poll results in which there was overwhelming cheering. This video shows the SPIN, but not the LIE. Check other youtube videos."
Having said that I don't want to live in the world Ron Paul envisions. To me it sounds like everyone for themselves.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/
There's status quo Obama,
bat-shit crazy Perry and Bachmann,
bigotted-middle class hating-never had a government job Cain,
boring status quo Romney,
Santorum (lol),
turd of a human Newt 'Gangrenous' Gingrich,
and the rest no one cares about and don't have a chance at winning.
So, best choice? I say either Obama or Paul. No matter what, though, we seem screwed.
Would it be any different with any of the GOP? Only if (which is likely to be the case) both houses of Congress are firmly in GOP hands. If that happened, as happened in 2002, all hell would break loose, and what little bit of sanity might remain would evaporate. I fear where the country would go if that were the case. Only the veto pen in Obama's hand between now and 2016 really stands a chance of keeping the US from plunging into corporate run theocracy.
So the choice is pretty clear to me. I'm not happy with him 100%, but I'm not going to have to hold my nose and vote for him either.
This is why the right is concerned with rolling back anything that even resembles an environmental regulation (they're too expensive for corporations!), while the left does things like passing a health care overhaul package. So you can't realistically say they're the same, because they're simply not. That's just a way of copping out IMHO.
Just as Republicans have used the Southern Strategy to distract voters and attract voters with social issues, Ron Paul gets attention in a similar way, but with a different set of voters. He's not even actually anti-war-- he's an isolationist (and, yes, there's a big difference). Behind all that rhetoric, Ron Paul is just another conservative pushing the Overton Window yet even further to the right.
Lol, not the most even-handed summary of the political wings.
A right-winger would probably just reverse your characterization as follows:
"The left hates America, destroys the family and eschews personal responsibility.
"The right, as flawed as it is, loves America, supports the family and encourages personal responsibility."
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/211823/20110911/ron-paul-racism-anti-semitism-republican.ht
The right "loves America"? More than the left? More than I do? I don't think so. It's the politics of faux-patriotism that have us so screwed up. The right doesn't have the lock on love of country. It "supports the family"? How exactly? By discouraging abortion, thus increasing unwanted, unloved children? Forcing so-called "Christian" morality down everyone's throat? It encourages personal responsibility? If that's the case, how come there's such a horribly low level of personal responsibility (that I see each and every single day at work) among those who most strongly support the right?
Sorry, arguments don't wash...
Well, I don't believe that... so I don't believe I'm a racist then. But apparently I'm a racist because I believe that citizens have the right to be racist as long as they don't harm or harass anyone...?
Trust me, I think that discrimination based on race is stupid, but I believe people have the right to do that if they so want to as long as they aren't harassing/harming anyone. The government doesn't have the right to, but I think private business owners and the average Joe can if they so do please.
By the way: typing words in all capital letters does not make your argument stronger. It only looks like you're shouting.
I put all caps to emphasize things that I believe should be emphasized rather than manually typing out code to bold it or underline it or whatever. Its just like highlighting, but since Lincoln hasn't fixed the bugs for the comment poster box thing where I can just press a button to make things bold, I will just capitalize things rather than typing out a bunch of code. But ya know what? Fuck it. I don't care.
perhaps someday america won't need these laws on the books anymore, but as is, you can't treat people like that. with options, it sounds okay, but what about businesses like the water or electric company (there's no alternative)? or privately owned schools? if you repeal the laws for one, you repeal the laws for all. keeping them on the books is a preemptive strike against extreme unfairness. suppose that guy at the electric company is a total racist, how else could you live?
Ron Paul is personally anti-abortion, but finds a happy medium between the pro-lifers and the pro-choicers in making abortion (and ALL OTHER SOCIAL MATTERS) a states matter. The country will remain divided on the issue of abortion for an untold amount of time... don't like our laws, move to another state. Simple as that. Personally, I think abortion should be the last thing on our minds during the 2012 election season, with the ENDLESS wars and debt crisis and myriad other problems that have absolutely nothing to do with the right to choose.
The insurance issue is a lot more complex than you make it out to be, and I recommend that you take a little time to investigate it. Here's an article: http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/health-care/
About half way through the book he kinda had me (on the gold reserve issue), but by the end I just thought "end this book", not the Fed.
He's not so much far-right as extreme liberalist. Not as bad as they can get, relatively civil and doesn't stoop to personal attacks as some Fox-types do, and certainly principled because he's stuck to guns for decades (often against as much criticism from republicans as democrats), so I have a certain level of grudging respect for him. But if I was American and voting, he still wouldn't get mine.
"As an OB/GYN who delivered over 4,000 babies, Ron Paul knows firsthand how precious, fragile, and in need of protection life is.
Dr. Paul’s experience in science and medicine only reinforced his belief that life begins at conception, and he believes it would be inconsistent for him to champion personal liberty and a free society if he didn’t also advocate respecting the God-given right to life—for those born and unborn.
After being forced to witness an abortion being performed during his time in medical school, he knew from that moment on that his practice would focus on protecting life. And during his years in medicine, never once did he find an abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman.
As a physician, Ron Paul consistently put his beliefs into practice and saved lives by helping women seek options other than abortion, including adoption. And as President, Ron Paul will continue to fight for the same pro-life solutions he has upheld in Congress, including:
* Immediately saving lives by effectively repealing Roe v. Wade and preventing activist judges from interfering with state decisions on life by removing abortion from federal court jurisdiction through legislation modeled after his “We the People Act.”
* Defining life as beginning at conception by passing a “Sanctity of Life Act.”
Because he agrees with Thomas Jefferson that it is “sinful and tyrannical” to “compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors,” Ron Paul will also protect the American people’s freedom of conscience by working to prohibit taxpayer funds from being used for abortions, Planned Parenthood, or any other so-called “family planning” program.
The strength of love for liberty in our society can be judged by how we treat the most innocent among us. It’s time to elect a President with the courage and conviction to stand up for every American’s right to life."
that doesn't sound much like what you describe. also, i don't understand how i'm making the insurance thing sound too simple when i called my insurance agency because i needed a pap smear and they told me, "women's health services are not covered." i wasn't talking about universal health care at all, just the fact that the end of his blurb on abortion(from his website) mentions that he wishes to pull funding from PP. i was bringing up insurance because mine sucks and i don't want to see that happen to PP or i will lose my women's health provider. i have a lot of female cancers in my family so this is sorta important to me.
at the present, i don't have any reason to believe that ron paul is the answer to american's problems. i'm still on the fence about it all, and i do plan on watching the debates (as i do every election), but there are certain things that can be a deal breaker to me. it's not a definite, but he'd have to be pretty fantastic to make me change my mind.
It's not up to you to decide for everyone else what is or isn't 'harm' or 'harassment'. That's why we have courts and laws, and what your OP said is racism, regardless of what you claim to believe.
Having 50 sets of rules, regulations, laws, norms, mores, and values means we're no longer one country. We're 50 little Balkan states who can't get along with one another. We fought one war, what's to say we won't fight another over matters such as abortion, taxation, immigration, etc, etc? Sadly, I feel pretty sure we eventually will.
So yes, I'm going to vote for the person who stands with me on MY key issues, and put up with the rest. Until a better system comes along, I don't really see any other choice, do you?
And BTW, 'reckless spending' is very much a matter of definition. Don't be sucked in by the media hype. Do a little independent research on the facts.