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Ordering the vegetarian meal? There’s more animal blood on your hands...

DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
edited January 2012 in Diet & Habits
Ordering the vegetarian meal? There’s more animal blood on your hands:

http://theconversation.edu.au/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

Comments

  • according to the Goddess of Mercy, eating meat not only causes harm to animals, it actually eating their past parents and siblings, and unknowingly developing future foes and being eaten as well. May all being eaten be liberated to the land of ultimate bliss :bowdown:
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    Thanks Spaceless!
  • Former Justice of the High Court, the Hon. Michael Kirby, wrote that:

    “In our shared sentience, human beings are intimately connected with other animals. Endowed with reason and speech, we are uniquely empowered to make ethical decisions and to unite for social change on behalf of others that have no voice. Exploited animals cannot protest about their treatment or demand a better life. They are entirely at our mercy. So every decision of animal welfare, whether in Parliament or the supermarket, presents us with a profound test of moral character”.
    :thumbsup:
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    I do agree, thought it was interesting. My friend posted it on Facebook and he follows a Caveman Diet.
  • this article is inherently flawed in that it makes the false assumption that vegetarians primary source of protein is grain. most vegetarians will net a higher percentage of protein from dairy and eggs than they will from beans and grain.
  • there are many vegetables, nut, fruit having proteins as well. practitioners never bothered much on this protein issues, as mind over body instead. in the great old days, no one bothered on protein, it occurred in the later centuries where illness developed because body over mind :p
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    Thank you both!
  • this article is inherently flawed in that it makes the false assumption that vegetarians primary source of protein is grain. most vegetarians will net a higher percentage of protein from dairy and eggs than they will from beans and grain.
    Very good points.

    Apparently the article is also seriously flawed in terms of its calculations regarding number of mice deaths to produce grain.

    http://animalliberation.org.au/blog/122-archers-dodgy-mouse-claims.html

  • seeker242seeker242 Zen Florida, USA Veteran
    edited January 2012
    Ordering the vegetarian meal? There’s more animal blood on your hands:

    And if you do not live in Australia and do live in a place where modern day mass farming methods are used, like the US, the whole article becomes irrelevant. :) Do people in the US or other 1st world countries have access to "sustainably wild-harvested kangaroo meat. " Not exactly!

    "At any time, only 2% of Australia’s national herd of cattle are eating grains in feed lots"

    Pretty much the opposite is true in the US. 85-90% of meat on the market in the US is grain fed, feed lot products, which are MUCH more destructive than modern day plant farming methods.

  • SileSile Veteran
    Wow. Glad to see lots of commentary after that article.

    Whichever statistics one accepts, I think it's still good inspiration to look closely at where all our food comes from. I sure hope that mama mouse got her pink baby somewhere safe after the pic was taken - mama mice do not like to be disturbed :/

    The more I see, the more I wholeheartedly believe in "buy small, buy local."
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Different slant on

    "think Global, ACT local"

    Works just as well in this scenario as any other.....
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran
    Ordering the vegetarian meal? There’s more animal blood on your hands:

    And if you do not live in Australia and do live in a place where modern day mass farming methods are used, like the US, the whole article becomes irrelevant. :) Do people in the US or other 1st world countries have access to "sustainably wild-harvested kangaroo meat. " Not exactly!

    "At any time, only 2% of Australia’s national herd of cattle are eating grains in feed lots"

    Pretty much the opposite is true in the US. 85-90% of meat on the market in the US is grain fed, feed lot products, which are MUCH more destructive than modern day plant farming methods.

    This was the point I was going to make after reading the article.

    Most of the meat in the US is grain fed, that feed comes from agriculture and it takes up to 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of meat. Not to mention the conditions the animals live in.

    @LeonBasin Great article, thanks for sharing. :thumbsup:
  • In the principle of four noble truth - it did not state that only human must lovingkindnessly amongst human, and not love animals. And the path to the cessation of suffering by not causing the suffering of others is de facto terminating the condition on the eruption of suffering, so that the cessation of suffering at present moment is constantly transformed into happening joys :D

    1. Life means suffering.:werr:
    2. The origin of suffering is attachment.:grr:
    3. The cessation of suffering. :om:
    4. The path to the cessation of suffering. ;)
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