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Dont cling to anything

Buddhas teaching can be summed up in four words, as Ajahn Amaro said:

"Dont Cling to anything".

There are many weapons we can use to overcome clinging.

But the main weapon is to be aware, and observe.

And use wisdom to let go: See things as not self, impermanent and unsatisfactionary.

But do we use these "weapons" well enough?

Its easy to think things are impermanent, but its easy to forget when you are stuck in dukkha.

We all know how difficult this is not to cling to things in our life.

We are clinging to sensual pleasure, what is right and wrong, opinions, likes and dislikes and so on.

We often say "Yes" when it goes our way and "NOOO" when things turns out to be bad.

What do you cling to in your life? Can you let it go?

ToraldrisEarthninjaBuddhadragonZenshin

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  • ToraldrisToraldris   -`-,-{@     Zen Nud... Buddhist     @}-,-`-   East Coast, USA Veteran

    Awesome straight-to-the-point advice. Even the teachings are just tools to be used as dispassionately as a hammer striking the nail. Don't cling to anything!

  • BunksBunks Australia Veteran
    Thank you @Namada.

    The list is probably too long for this forum to be honest. I like to think I am very slowly lettimg go of at least some of these things though.
    Namada
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @Namada said:
    Buddhas teaching can be summed up in four words, as Ajahn Amaro said:
    "Dont Cling to anything".

    Does he give any practical tips on how to let go?

  • EarthninjaEarthninja Wanderer West Australia Veteran
    I've heard a tip. If you can observe it is not you.

    Undrstand it as Annica, Anatta and Dukkha.

    When you are the observer it created a space between you and what's perceived. This helps with not clinging
    sova
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran
    edited January 2015

    "Dont Cling to anything".

    Well that is one worthy platitude. In the real world I tend to go for more clinging - tenacious clinging even . . .

    • I cling to refuge.
    • I cling to Mr Cushion and his buttock kissing addiction
    • I cling to the 8 fold path
    • I cling to the attainers, guides and teachers of the path

    Yep. Fight fiery clinging with fiery practice.

    I iz so into clinging to everything . . . >:)

    SarahTKundoBuddhadragonNerima
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @Earthninja said:
    I've heard a tip. If you can observe it is not you.

    I still don't really get that anatta stuff. ;)

    I guess for me it's about developing spaciousness, so the stuff that does arise can be seen from ( in? ) a bigger perspective.

  • NamadaNamada Veteran
    edited January 2015

    Yes there are many practical tips for letting go, from teachers like Ajahn Chah,
    and his students, Ajahn Amaro, Ajahn Jaysaro...

    To see that everything are impermanent are important, your body is getting older, your mental formations always change, your breathing change, everything in this world are in the same boat. And thats why its nothing to hold on to, because its just a mass of suffering, (we will get sick old and one day die).

    So when we see this we can therefor let go of things:

    Tools for letting go.

    -Make your breath as an anker, or the here and the now.

    one day, you are thinking about something like "why the heck did i Do this, Iam a big Idiot".
    you are aware about this and then you can count your breaths from one to ten, (many times) it will then dissapear after a while.

    And at the same time use your wisdom and put in the category of: Impermanence, you know for yourself this is not going to be forever so, therfore its nothing to hold on to and you can more easily forgive your self and others.

    Then you will devlop equanumity and wisdom. Things are impermanent put everything in this category.

  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @Namada said:
    one day, you are thinking about something like "why the heck did i Do this, Iam a big Idiot".
    you are aware about this and then you can count your breaths from one to ten, (many times) it will then dissapear after a while.

    That can work but it's only a preparatory stage really. Not wanting something and waiting for it to go away is sort of missing the point. I think it's more like allowing stuff to rise and fall without indulging and attaching, but that's a state of mind more than a method. The subtleties of Right Effort.

  • NamadaNamada Veteran
    edited January 2015

    Yes, bad written, i didnt mean "wanting it to go away" But just observe it, if you just want, it will be craving, and just make it bigger than it is. Just observe it, with out any judgment, not telling your self this thing is bad this is good, but it is what it is.

    and understand it will be a impermanent phenomen.

    Ofcourse you are not escaping from things, you will face it, but with a mind of letting go.

    I will call it a method, because first your are aware of what happens, and then putting everyhting in to three categories, (or one of them)

    impermanent, not self and unsatisfactionary.

  • NamadaNamada Veteran
    edited January 2015

    Lobster, you cling to tools for letting things go, that dosent count I think...

  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    The parable of the raft applies.

  • NamadaNamada Veteran
    edited January 2015

    Yes, the raft need to stay behind :smile:

  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    @Namada said:
    Lobster, you cling to tools for letting things go, that dosent count I think...

    Oh, sorry, my mistake. :'(

    Personally I don't focus on my cling film, afflictive emotions, heretical tendencies etc. I practice what I can-can rather than clinging to the anti-clinging dance . . .

    BuddhadragonsilversovaNerima
  • BuddhadragonBuddhadragon Ehipassiko & Carpe Diem Samsara Veteran
    edited January 2015

    @Namada said:
    To see that everything is impermanent is important, your body is getting older, your mental formations always change, your breathing change, everything in this world are in the same boat. And thats why its nothing to hold on to, because its just a mass of suffering, (we will get sick old and one day die).

    I have this uncontrollable and unquenchable clinging to antique, rare books.

    I have a long wish-list on Amazon and Abebooks and automatically every 24 of each month after 11 pm (25th is payday), my fingers click the right buttons to get the list shorter.

    Everything is impermanent, but these books have been around for well over a hundred years.
    They have survived world wars, the indifference of new technological media, and provide the link for at least five generations of human beings.
    I prefer to read my Nyanatiloka Thera from my 1914 tattered copy than from the latest Tolino.
    There is some illusion of permanence in impermanence after all.

    SarahT
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    It would be nice if they developed psychic teflon.

    sova
  • ZenshinZenshin Veteran East Midlands UK Veteran
    edited January 2015

    @SpinyNorman‌ They did its called meditation practice. :p

    sovaNerima
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran
    edited January 2015

    Yeah I know, but that's a lot of effort, it would be nice if they came up with something in a spray can. ;)

    Zenshinsilver
  • ZenshinZenshin Veteran East Midlands UK Veteran

    @SpinyNorman‌ You have a point buddy, I feel an all pervasive sense of dukkha today.

  • genkakugenkaku Northampton, Mass. U.S.A. Veteran

    @Namada wrote: Lobster, you cling to tools for letting things go, that dosent count I think...

    I disagree categorically... something I cling to dontcha know.

    sovaSarahT
  • Genkaku, yes, its a grey zone for clinging. Clinging to chocolate dosent count either :smile:

    lobsterSarahT
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    The Dalai Lama himself, clings to watches. He loves them. He's a dab hand at repairing broken ones, apparently.... He has been given quite a few, and loves his collection....

  • I dont think its any harm to have one collection of antique books, watches and so on, its just to go the middelway...hold on to it, and then put it down when nessesary.

    Bunks
  • I don’t think anyone really clings to stuff or feelings. There is literally nothing to cling to. Words vanish in the air. Books are paper and ink. I think the point is that all clinging is to self. That’s the only thing we really cling to.

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    Knowing some people as I do, I would beg to differ...

    .

  • ChazChaz The Remarkable Chaz Anywhere, Everywhere & Nowhere Veteran

    @federica said:
    The Dalai Lama himself, clings to watches. He loves them. He's a dab hand at repairing broken ones, apparently.... He has been given quite a few, and loves his collection....

    Well that's comforting!

    I guess it's ok then (sorta) if I continue clinging to my sports car. I've wanted one since I was old enough to start thinking cars were cool - 50 years ago. I finally indulged myself a couple years ago.

  • seeker242seeker242 Zen Florida, USA Veteran

    @federica said:
    The Dalai Lama himself, clings to watches. He loves them. He's a dab hand at repairing broken ones, apparently.... He has been given quite a few, and loves his collection....

    Yes, but I bet if someone stole his watch collection, he would then stop clinging to it! :)

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    I read an anecdote in one of Lama Surya Das' Trilogy books (I forget which one) with regard to a lady who had a beautiful and plentiful collection of paperweights, I believe ... but decided to cut down on them because she knew she was exercising too much clinging/attachment... so she kept a chosen, special, particularly favoured few, and gave the remainder to charity shops, and some friends.
    Sadly, one awful day, she suffered a severe house fire, which destroyed everything she had - including the few chosen, special particularly few favoured paperweights....

    • So that taught her a lesson too....the only way to truly keep anything is to give it away....
    ZenshinToraldrisSarahT
  • HamsakaHamsaka goosewhisperer Polishing the 'just so' Veteran
    edited January 2015

    What do you cling to in your life?

    How much time do you have? I could get through my list of what I don't cling to in about four and a half minutes, including "uhhhhhh" silences.

    Can you let it go?

    Yes. In spite of my habitual, forgetful, and yet delusional relationship with reality, I can and will. Most of it will be let go of for lack of alternatives (sickness, old age and death).

    I was just reading Rodney Smith's latest book (he's the head teacher at Seattle Insight). He is WAYYYY out there, I can barely understand him and am unsure even then! But I was reading a chapter of his book while waiting to get a chest xray for my new job. The chapter was similar in topic to this thread, and so while waiting to be called back, I sat in a hot stuffy room with fellow humans and their viruses or sore knees. The doctor's office; what an existential space where comfort is exchanged for discomfort, faith into fear, fear to relief. But beneath all that (or above it? surrounding it?) is awareness and no narrative, unless I provide the narrative. The narrative IS NOT reality. What a relief, I think.

    EarthninjaZenshin
  • ToraldrisToraldris   -`-,-{@     Zen Nud... Buddhist     @}-,-`-   East Coast, USA Veteran

    I'm still clingy, just not so much where myself is concerned. I cling to experiences... pleasurable experiences (ooh la la!). However the longer I've had a Buddhist practice, the less "I" matter in the grand scheme of things. I've been able to let go of clinging to myself, something that was already half untethered because I've never believed in a soul (so never took myself to be anything but a temporary being). There's a long way yet to go, but "don't cling to anything" is the direction of movement.

    lobsterBuddhadragon
  • "Dont Cling to anything".

    Even this to teaching. :)
    You still experience dukkha just by the effort to not cling to anything.
    Relax and learn to let things be.

    David
  • EarthninjaEarthninja Wanderer West Australia Veteran
    That's right! Drop everything!

    Who you think you are, your likes and dislikes. Your hopes, your fears. Drop wanting anything, don't try and do anything! You are not the body, you are not the mind.

    1...2...3... Drop everything!

    Did it work? Worked for me for 3 seconds. XD
    NamadaSarahT
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    Hey, man, let's all chill like the hippys used to. Be here now! ;)

    Earthninja
  • ToraldrisToraldris   -`-,-{@     Zen Nud... Buddhist     @}-,-`-   East Coast, USA Veteran

    @SpinyNorman "Be Here Now" by Ram Dass, now that was a trippy book.

    Earthninja
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    Funnily enough it was that book which originally "turned me on" to the whole Boodhist thing.

    Not sayin' I used to be a dope-smoking hippy or anything or course.... ;)

    Earthninja
  • ToraldrisToraldris   -`-,-{@     Zen Nud... Buddhist     @}-,-`-   East Coast, USA Veteran

    I only became aware of that book a few months ago, and the content itself is one thing... but the design of the book really catches you. I've never seen a book like that in my life, and I wonder why!

  • DavidDavid A human residing in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Ancestral territory of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Huron-Wendat, Mississauga and Neutral First Nations Veteran
    edited January 2015
    My brothers neighbors girlfriend gave me a copy of that book about a year ago and told me when I was done with it to pass it on.

    I actually liked a lot of it but some of it was silly. Cops create hippies, hippies create cops... That kind of stuff. I do like the blend of Hinduism, Taoism and Buddhism though.

    Very cool book on whole and a part of me wishes I didn't wrap it up like a present and leave it in a phone booth with a card that said "you" on it at 2 am on a university campus.
    ZenshinEarthninja
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @ourself said:
    Very cool book on whole and a part of me wishes I didn't wrap it up like a present and leave it in a phone booth with a card that said "you" on it at 2 am on a university campus.

    Cool! ;)

  • DavidDavid A human residing in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Ancestral territory of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Huron-Wendat, Mississauga and Neutral First Nations Veteran
    I might buy it... I saw it at amazon when I was checking to make certain I was talking about the same book.

    Then it almost goes against the nature of my reading it as I was not meant to cling to it. Also why it fit so well with the thread. If I go buy it, maybe I should buy 2 and give a copy away randomly again... I think she screwed me. It's the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance all over again... I've owned that book four times and I still don't have a copy.

    It's not so much the content of Be Here Now but how it is presented that makes me want to add it to my collection.
  • NamadaNamada Veteran
    edited January 2015

    @Lobster "Letting go does not mean we need to give up our car, partners, book collection, children, footwear, poverty, job, soft furnishings, Buddha statues or intake of dharm"


    Yes, letting go dosent mean to throw everything out the window, but letting go means not to identify with things, opinoins, conventions and so on, and belive its "yours" and therfor hold on to it and belive it is someting permanent. Because everything is actually unsertain.

    As Ajahn Chah said:

    “If our body really belonged to us, then it would obey our commands. But if we say “don’t get old”, or “I forbid you to get sick”, does it obey us? No... It takes no notice.

    We only rent this house -- We don’t own it. If we think the house belongs to us; when we have to leave it, to die, we suffer. In reality, there is no such thing as a Self”

    lobsterEarthninja
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