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What other paths interest you?

I rather like Advaita, the idea of union with the infinite ( or something ). Also paganism, the reverence for nature and possibly the mushrooms. ;)

Earthninja
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  • EarthninjaEarthninja Wanderer West Australia Veteran

    Spiny me and you should start a Buddhist Advaita Pagan group. We meditate on mushrooms to transcend duality into unity.

    Nerima
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran
    edited October 2015

    Practically all of them.

    I think some are too specialised such as regional shamanic paths and are best born into. I do practice alchemy but it is too specialised and not even suitable for great minds like Isaac Newton the founder of Apple ... eh wait ... gone wrong again, probably taken too much of the 'elixir of immortality' ... :3

    I do rather like Taoism but think it best suited to learning how to kill using tai chi chuan.

    I feel the great tradititions augment or complement my dharmering. So for example I rely on teachings from Sufism to keep me extra humble, too kind for words and extremely virtuous on all days not ending in a y ...

    I like vedenta and would like to know more about quantum mysticism, probably in another universe.

    Great question for our man watching yogis, judeo-buddhist heretics, christodharmahists etc. Look forward to their insights :)

    Long Live The Buddha B)

    Earthninja
  • @SpinyNorman said:
    Also paganism, the reverence for nature and possibly the mushrooms. ;)

    Familiar for me, not mushrooms (I've taken a small dosage and didn't like it) but paganism. In fact, I've written quite a lot about paganism...

  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @Earthninja said:> Spiny me and you should start a Buddhist Advaita Pagan group. We meditate on mushrooms to transcend duality into unity.

    Do we have to do naked dancing in the forest? ;)

    Earthninja
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @Pöljä said: In fact, I've written quite a lot about paganism...

    Do you have any experience of pagan practices?

  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    By the way I was involved in the Quakers for several years, but unfortunately their woolly thinking led to me becoming a born-again atheist, praise the absence of Lord!

    lobsterEarthninjaInvincible_summer
  • @SpinyNorman said:
    Do you have any experience of pagan practices?

    I wouldn't say real practices. More from the "academic" viewpoint: how paganism, especially shamanism interprets the reality.

  • seeker242seeker242 Zen Florida, USA Veteran

    Taoism is cool :)

    Earthninja
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    Many other paths 'interest 'me. I may not be drawn to them, like them or find them fulfilling, but they're all interesting and have their own 'story to tell'.

    Sometimes, rather than looking/seeking, it pays to just shut up and listen.

    Nerima
  • genkakugenkaku Northampton, Mass. U.S.A. Veteran
    edited October 2015

    The other day, I noticed that the local senior center had a get-together/discussion group whose focus was on "wisdom." The only question I had for what I assumed would be a number of white-haired participants rife with "wisdom" was, "What is it that you imagine does not embrace or enfold or entail something called "wisdom"?" At a certain age, the dividing lines tend to blur.

    Seriously.

  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @lobster said:I do practice alchemy but it is too specialised and not even suitable for great minds like Isaac Newton the founder of Apple ... eh wait ... gone wrong again, probably taken too much of the 'elixir of immortality' ...

    So what does alchemy involve?

  • Rowan1980Rowan1980 Keeper of the Zoo Asheville, NC Veteran

    Secular Humanism these days. ;) I'm making peace with being, well, agnostic/atheist-ish whilst practicing Soto Zen. (The former bit is essentially something I've been having to come to terms with recently.)

    Invincible_summer
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran
    edited October 2015

    @SpinyNorman said:
    So what does alchemy involve?

    Hopefully interior development described in peculiar, symbolic ways.
    Here are my pages on alchemy:

    http://tinyurl.com/p3s7th3

    If they are incomprehensible then making gold and immortality potions may be available ... allegedly ...

  • silversilver In the beginning there was nothing, and then it exploded. USA, Left coast. Veteran

    I'm 'for' the animals and nature, hence the paganism bit draws me...I simply don't know enough about any other path to really engage - get into them. Which is fine, really. I have limited memory...or CRS to study much more than I already am.

  • Tony_A_SimienTony_A_Simien Veteran
    edited October 2015

    What other paths interest you?

    I actually started my journey at a very young age (8 -10 year's old). I was obsessed with mysticism.

    Having been born and raised in rural South Louisiana USA. The heart of the Hoodoo (Christianity, African Voodoo and Native American Spiritual concoction) culture.

    So my first attempt to understand life was dabbling in Hoodoo, Witchcraft, Necromancy and Parapsychology.

    Then later that lead to Qi Gong, Tai chi, Taoism, Kriya yoga, Advaita Vendanta and finally Buddhism.

    There may be some who would say that being involved in so many systems is the cause for much confusion. I would say to them that some of us need that to help blow open that steel reinforced concrete bunker called mind. I certainly did. No doubt.

    Of course that doesn't include hoodoo, witchcraft or necromancy. Those are based on harnessing the darker side of the human being.

    Now I follow no system or tradition. I simply know the breath continuously.

    FYI

    My brand of Necromancy was trying to summon the legions of Lucifer muhahaha!

    dantepwEarthninja
  • Tony_A_SimienTony_A_Simien Veteran
    edited October 2015

    If any are curious. The Necromacer's bible I learned from was called:

    The lesser key of Solomon

    Direct link to ebook pdf version

    http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/grimoire/goetia.pdf

    It's an interesting read.

    Earthninja
  • WalkerWalker Veteran Veteran

    Shamanism
    Sufism
    Kabbalah
    Gnostic Christianity
    Mysticism in general

    Earthninja
  • rohitrohit Maharrashtra Veteran
    edited October 2015

    I like atheism. The thought that nothing remains after death i.e absence of rebirth. Whatever you do the result you need to face in this life only, You may succeed to avoid punishment if you can.

    The theory of "Charvak sage" who denied all the sects and religions of his time. Declaring all theist and priest are making people fool through fear of god.
    There is no rebirth, life ends with death. If you do good then might get good results but if you do bad and able to escape bad result then you can get along with it, you will have no rebirth to face it.

    The reason Buddhism, i end up to follow is that i realize that the actions we do get stored in thoughts and it makes us happy or sorrow. And when one dies one must have cool mind (not for the purpose of good rebirth. But for the luxury of fulfillment that human being founds in good deeds and absence of any regret) so it is necessary to have good condition of mind which is possible through following Buddhism. In addition Buddhism helps us to remain apart from dogmas and God loving priest kind of things who makes us fearful.

    lobstermmo
  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran
    edited October 2015

    "What other paths interest you?"

    The sciences : Quantum Physics and the likes....

    And the 'likes' being psychology.....In a sense we're all psycho-scientists, exploring the workings of the mind...(in a past life, I would have to say I was leaning more to the psycho side than scientist... :lol: )

  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    @rohit said:
    I like atheism.

    B)

    Me [not to be confused with no-me] too.
    I am a great believer in atheistic Dharma, God and demon killing for fun and profit [PBUH] and am an avid follower of the recipes of the un-divine noodliness The Flying Speghetthi Monster
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody_religion

    Hail Satin! (for all your cushion needs) o:)

    ... and now back to rite speech ...

    rohitRowan1980
  • EarthninjaEarthninja Wanderer West Australia Veteran

    The Advaita approach is what I resonate the strongest with, I really like Toa and zen in their naturalness.
    I looked into Shamanism because of it's age and I love nature and animals.
    There is an interesting tool they use is a certain frequency of drum beat that illicit a really radical shift in your consciousness. It's a trance that helps you communicate with the spirit world.
    Never got very far with this, I saw an animal and ran away.

    I looked into the pagans. They are a great bunch and I'm sure their festivals would be epic.

  • EarthninjaEarthninja Wanderer West Australia Veteran

    @Tony_A_Simien said:
    If any are curious. The Necromacer's bible I learned from was called:

    The lesser key of Solomon

    Direct link to ebook pdf version

    http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/grimoire/goetia.pdf

    It's an interesting read.

    Lol. Necromancy into Buddhism? Awesome

  • @Earthninja

    Lol. Necromancy into Buddhism? Awesome

    I know!

    It was more to do with the paranormal. I was into that as a kid. So I'd read and fiddle around with anything to do with the occult. I was obsessed!.

    I think it was about discovery. I was into science also. But science had too many explanations. I was interested in those things that couldn't be explained. I wanted to discover the answers on my own. The excitement of discovery!

    I'm still like that. But I stay away from superstition nowadays.

    @lobster

    {Evil grin} I will dispatch legions of the most vicious, vile, bloodthirsty demons to annihilate your Flying Spaghetti Monster haha! Haha! HAHA!
    DIE! Spaghetti Monster DIE!

  • DavidDavid A human residing in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Ancestral territory of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Huron-Wendat, Mississauga and Neutral First Nations Veteran
    edited October 2015

    I'm pretty sure if I analyzed my views right down to the nitty gritty they would fall somewhere in the Advaita, Brahmic, Taoist kind of Buddhism.

    Kind of like Hinduism with no labels. Instead of Vishnu having ten avatars (more or less depending on who we ask) we would be the infinite avatars of the nameless and beginingless cycle of being.

    No rebirth or reincarnation, just inter-birth with countless perspectives. Your past life, my past life... Same lives, different impacts.

    Oh and Druidism. I like Druidism.

  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran
    edited October 2015

    @Earthninja said: There is an interesting tool they use is a certain frequency of drum beat that illicit a really radical shift in your consciousness.

    I've experienced this, the drummer was using a Native American drum. I think it depends on the frequency of the drum beat.

    Earthninja
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @ourself said: No rebirth or reincarnation, just inter-birth with countless perspectives. Your past life, my past life... Same lives, different impacts.

    Interesting possibilities. If you look at consciousness as a discreet element ( like earth, wind, fire and water ) then it's possible to consider some kind of "recycling" or crossover.
    I don't find the rebirth or reincarnation models that convincing, they just seem too crude.

  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @ourself said: I like Druidism.

    Yes, that's cool. I would like to be called "Spiny Pendragon". ;)

    federicaEarthninja
  • ToshTosh Veteran

    The 12 Steps; they're perfect for folk like me (someone with a messed-up past, confused, guilt and resentment ridden).

    I hated a lot of folk, I had a lot of guilt about things I'd done and how things had worked out, and I was confused; the things that I thought would make me happy actually ended up with me being suicidal.

    The 12 Steps showed me a clear path in how to deal with my past and with those people I resented, and they showed me a better way to find happiness. I mean left to my own devices I thought women, money and booze would make me happy, but surprisingly enough they actually made me miserable.

    I'm not always the smartest! O.o

    Tony_A_Simienrohitmmo
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    Oh, I wouldn't say that, Tosh.... ;)

    Tosh
  • The only moral path that really interests me is to follow the basic simple rules like not to kill and not to eat killed animals. Not really :) interested in all those pompous male teachers and their schools.

    ShoshinEarthninjasilver
  • Invincible_summerInvincible_summer Heavy Metal Dhamma We(s)t coast, Canada Veteran

    Like @federica, many paths interest me, though I may not be drawn enough to them to practice them. For instance, Contemplative Christianity; Sufi Islam; Vajrayana to name the ones that hold my interest more than others.

  • A notable thing in so called paganism is that the spiritual "leaders" of societies are often women. That's the main reason why huge amounts of women have been burned, drowned and executed as witches and lovers of Satan.

  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran
    edited October 2015

    "What other paths interest you?"

    Personally I found the deeper I went into the Eightfold Path the more I found it incorporates the best qualities of all the other spiritual paths I have had a passing interest in, by providing the necessary tools to set things in motion, so to speak...Personally I found the other paths Spiritually lacking, they did nothing for me...(Well apart from motivating me to look beyond the mundane )

    I've been lead down the garden path on more than one occasion ...So I would have to also say the "Garden Path" that leads one nowhere (or is that now here) :)

    My new Spiritual Motto to live by..... "If it ain't broke don't try to fix it ! "

  • bookwormbookworm U.S.A. Veteran

    There is only one path that actually leads to disenchantment, to dispassion, and to cessation, and that is the eightfold one discovered by the Buddha.

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited October 2015

    @bookworm said:
    There is only one path that actually leads to disenchantment, to dispassion, and to cessation, and that is the eightfold one discovered by the Buddha.

    Nobody is necessarily denying that. The question is, what other paths interest you?
    If you're not 'interested' in other paths, then that's fine. Some of us follow Buddhism, but are interested enough - and consequently, open-minded enough - to hear what others have to say.

    What they have to say is informative, educational, and gives insight into how other people lead their lives.

    Hope that helps.

    how
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    Very interesting guys <3

    I will have to look into Druidism, which I may be confusing with being a Dread or dudeism
    http://dudeism.com

    Secular humanism (or inhumanism for those of us of an animal nature) strikes me as dharmically very compatible.

    @Pöljä very salienly reminds us of the 'Wise Women' traditions. Gal power.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_feminism

    One of the most trite BUT surprisingly rich potentials is the 'New Age' movement. They borrow a lot from Buddhism. However treat with caution and cushion otherwise you may end up ultra spiritual ... lest you forget ...

  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran

    It's been said that Christianity is just a form of "New age" Judaism...I guess back in the day the same could be said of Buddhism when it comes to Hinduism :)

  • karastikarasti Breathing Minnesota Moderator

    @rohit I'm curious why you think it's necessary to have a good/cool mind at death if you believe nothing happens afterwards? You will die no matter whether you mind is calm, cool, collected or you are filled with anger and regret. Of course, it is better to live with a cool, calm mind than to die with one, so practicing Buddhism for every day (it seems) is better than solely practicing for death.

  • PöljäPöljä Veteran
    edited October 2015

    @Shoshin said:
    It's been said that Christianity is just a form of "New age" Judaism...I guess back in the day the same could be said of Buddhism when it comes to Hinduism :)

    Mmm, Hinduism is the only major religion that still has a hearty connection to the ancient world-wide animism. Christianity is a hippie version of Judaism, for sure. Both Jesus Christ and Krishna are usually described as very feminine men. My sweet Lord... :)

  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator

    Catholic contemplativism (e.g., Merton. Keating, Rohr, etc.), Sufism, Vendata, and Platonism. Pretty much anything that leans towards mysticism with a dash of rationalism thrown in for good measure.

    Walker
  • yagryagr Veteran

    I am surprised to see so many folks reference Vedanta. I very much enjoyed a little book called, 'The Sermon on the Mount According to Vedanta'. Some of you might enjoy it too. My daughter asked me once what twenty books I thought she should bring with her if she was to be marooned on a desert island after a three hour tour. This book was on the list.

    Jason
  • It's easy to be at least a bit animistic pagan if you want to protect Mother Earth. Off-topic: the film Avatar is interesting in many ways. The religion of Pandora and the blue skin colour of the Na'vi.

  • rohitrohit Maharrashtra Veteran

    @karasti said:
    rohit I'm curious why you think it's necessary to have a good/cool mind at death if you believe nothing happens afterwards? You will die no matter whether you mind is calm, cool, collected or you are filled with anger and regret. Of course, it is better to live with a cool, calm mind than to die with one, so practicing Buddhism for every day (it seems) is better than solely practicing for death.

    For a just happy ending. =)

    ShoshinEarthninja
  • JasonJason God Emperor Arrakis Moderator
    edited October 2015

    @yagr said:
    I am surprised to see so many folks reference Vedanta. I very much enjoyed a little book called, 'The Sermon on the Mount According to Vedanta'. Some of you might enjoy it too. My daughter asked me once what twenty books I thought she should bring with her if she was to be marooned on a desert island after a three hour tour. This book was on the list.

    Yeah, it's pretty good. I read it during my last stay at Our Lady of Guadalupe, a Trappist monastery just outside of Portland. I think Swani Prabhavananda does a good job of elucidating the deeper and more esoteric meaning of this set of Jesus' teachings.

    yagr
  • silversilver In the beginning there was nothing, and then it exploded. USA, Left coast. Veteran

    @Pöljä said:
    ... Not really :) interested in all those pompous male teachers and their schools.

    Me too. +1 LoL / and +1 awesome.

    I guess I'd like to say that I'm interested in the people's stories - the common men and women and children...iykwim
    <3

    rohitlobster
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    That seems a healthy approach @silver. Stories are the traditional wisdom transfer in many cultures. Buddhism was an oral transmission for centuries before being written down.

    However the stories are all around us as you suggest. Sometimes we hear them and then they disappear. Careful listening and observing, amazing what one can learn ... :)

    Iz plan!

    silver
  • DairyLamaDairyLama Veteran Veteran

    @Pöljä said: It's easy to be at least a bit animistic pagan if you want to protect Mother Earth. Off-topic: the film Avatar is interesting in many ways. The religion of Pandora and the blue skin colour of the Na'vi.

    Yes, and it was satisfying that the ignorant humans got their arses kicked. ;)

  • PöljäPöljä Veteran
    edited October 2015

    @SpinyNorman said:
    Yes, and it was satisfying that the ignorant humans got their arses kicked. ;)

    Oh no, people are not stupid and ignorant! But power games and fckng big guns give them the most satisfying joy. :)

  • cazcaz Veteran United Kingdom Veteran

    @SpinyNorman said:
    I rather like Advaita, the idea of union with the infinite ( or something ). Also paganism, the reverence for nature and possibly the mushrooms. ;)

    For me the Nyingma tradition I find fascinating and outside of Buddhism Catholism has also always been of interest my partner is a lapsed Catholic and ive always enjoyed attending :)

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