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anger

shep83shep83 wisbech, cambigshire, uk Explorer
edited July 2016 in General Banter

Today I experienced the beginning of an angry episode, I'm not prone to angry outburst but I do on occasion suffer with bouts of frustration which in turn lead to angry thoughts today I felt a frustration towards a colluege of mine, but it never developed in to anything, perhaps I was experienceing what Is commonly known as mindfulness, I was aware that I was beginning to get angry but it was almost as if I were watching it happen to someone other than myself, dose this make sense to anyone else or am I just deluding myself?

Bunks

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  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited July 2016

    Nope. Makes perfect sense. There is some Buddhist advice that counsels us to "observe" our comings and goings as if we were watching a film, a play, a tv programme, and that we can 'see' ourselves as we act... It makes sense....

    shep83RuddyDuck9
  • JeroenJeroen Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter Netherlands Veteran

    That kind of experiencing of different emotions in altered states of mind is something I've had as well, and I associate it with prolonged periods of concentration or meditation. It seems to be harmless... I find sleep usually resets things.

    shep83RuddyDuck9
  • silversilver In the beginning there was nothing, and then it exploded. USA, Left coast. Veteran

    @shep83 said, "...perhaps I was experienceing what Is commonly known as mindfulness, I was aware that I was beginning to get angry but it was almost as if I were watching it happen to someone other than myself, dose this make sense to anyone else or am I just deluding myself?"

    Sounds like a first step towards you developing more awareness and mindfulness, yes. A good thing. :star:

    shep83RuddyDuck9
  • namarupanamarupa Veteran
    edited July 2016

    As humans we are clueless of the full range of cause and effect. We can only go by experience. If we are lucky sometimes we might be able to see our faults, wrong views, and negligence whlie they occur as thoughts. We can then disregard or learn from them.

    shep83
  • FosdickFosdick in its eye are mirrored far off mountains Alaska, USA Veteran

    I experience something like this on nearly a daily basis. Sometimes I think of it metaphorically as a bank of interconnected switches in the mind - something in the environment will trigger the first switch, sending energy up the line toward a particular response - anger, for example.

    Then there is a second switch, and we have the choice whether to open it and become angry, or close the switch and stop that energy from being passed into the response, the ordinary default reaction to the stimulus.

    In some cases, I have to deliberately close the second switch, in others closing the switch has become the default response, but I am always aware of it when the 'first switch' is triggered.

    It is not just gross emotional reactions like anger, fear, lust and so on that are compatible with this kind of metaphorical perception, but what seems like an infinite list of other, far more subtle responses as well. Where should energy be allowed to pass? What do we do with our desire?

    lobsterpersonshep83
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    Pertinent insight from @Fosdick <3

    As an angry/passionate/easily riled semi Buddhist I am constantly being outwitted by my monkey minded emotions ...
    Awareness does not always mean being master of the option to indulge or be skilfull :3

    Fortunately I have experienced increasing awareness of solutions, which in my case is temp distraction ... and being kind as a general purpose rule ...

    I plan to do better. No laughing please ;)

    personshep83
  • IchLiebteIchLiebte US Veteran

    @shep83 said:
    I was aware that I was beginning to get angry but it was almost as if I were watching it happen to someone other than myself, dose this make sense to anyone else or am I just deluding myself?

    This sounds like depersonalization/derealization, actually. I have it chronically. I never feel exactly as if I'm... here. I feel like I'm stuck in another dimension watching what I'm doing, that I can't get back to my body. If what triggered the anger was upsetting, and it probably was, your mind most likely was trying to dissociate away from that upset. Usually when I get angry, it causes a huge panic attack, I can't see, I feel like my heart is going to explode (I get palpitations and all), and I feel a million miles away. Anger further triggers my depersonalization/derealization. After having this condition for 14 years, it's pretty easy to identify for me when other people explain it. Not that it couldn't be something else, but I'm almost positive this is what you're explaining. But most people have at least one episode of this in their lives.

    personshep83
  • shep83shep83 wisbech, cambigshire, uk Explorer

    ****> @IchLiebte said:

    @shep83 said:
    I was aware that I was beginning to get angry but it was almost as if I were watching it happen to someone other than myself, dose this make sense to anyone else or am I just deluding myself?

    This sounds like depersonalization/derealization, actually. I have it chronically. I never feel exactly as if I'm... here. I feel like I'm stuck in another dimension watching what I'm doing, that I can't get back to my body. If what triggered the anger was upsetting, and it probably was, your mind most likely was trying to dissociate away from that upset. Usually when I get angry, it causes a huge panic attack, I can't see, I feel like my heart is going to explode (I get palpitations and all), and I feel a million miles away. Anger further triggers my depersonalization/derealization. After having this condition for 14 years, it's pretty easy to identify for me when other people explain it. Not that it couldn't be something else, but I'm almost positive this is what you're explaining. But most people have at least one episode of this in their lives.

    You may be right, I wasn't sure what I was experiencing at the time hence the post, thanks for all the replies.

  • RuddyDuck9RuddyDuck9 MD, USA Veteran

    well, noticing this feeling and catching it before it goes off the rails is a great thing. something i seriously failed at the other day when I yelled at my husband because the dog got into the leftovers. Mad at the dog, snapping at the hubs?? naw, that doesn't make sense! Wish I'd been able to stop myself then!

    shep83
  • shep83shep83 wisbech, cambigshire, uk Explorer

    @RuddyDuck9 said:
    well, noticing this feeling and catching it before it goes off the rails is a great thing. something i seriously failed at the other day when I yelled at my husband because the dog got into the leftovers. Mad at the dog, snapping at the hubs?? naw, that doesn't make sense! Wish I'd been able to stop myself then!

    You'll get there ruddyduck, I often think this thing we do is one step forward two steps back..

    RuddyDuck9
  • FosdickFosdick in its eye are mirrored far off mountains Alaska, USA Veteran

    @RuddyDuck9 said

    yelled at my husband because the dog got into the leftovers

    Dogs are wonderful teachers - the more of them you have, the faster you learn!

    RuddyDuck9shep83
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