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Mastering Zazen, mastering one's life?

After a few weeks of continuous practice, I've noticed my body isn't as tense anymore. I can sit still—or at least without fidgeting as much—and I don’t get lost in thoughts as often. Time passes less painfully slowly now, meaning I don’t check the timer or think, "When is this going to end?"

So… is this it, then? There’s no real goal—just a lifelong practice of learning to sit and simply be, whether it's raining, you're heartbroken, or you're high on some success at work.

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  • Shoshin1Shoshin1 Sentient Being Oceania Veteran

    So… is this it, then?

    Yep that sounds about it...
    In Zen mind Beginner's mind, Shunryu Suzuki says just focus on your posture. According to Shunryu Suzuki, sitting correctly, with full presence, is enlightenment in action.

    Right posture/practice
    Suzuki teaches that zazen is not a means to an end, it's not to “get” enlightenment or escape problems. The practice is the realisation.

    “Zazen is not a means to an end. It is the practice of the Buddha.”

    Right attitude
    This is the heart of Suzuki’s teaching. He constantly returns to the beginner's mind

    “In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities; in the expert's mind there are few.”

    Right understanding
    Suzuki's Zen isn’t about intellectual mastery, it’s experiential. Understanding comes through doing.

    "True understanding arises from direct experience in zazen, not from concepts or words"

    Thus have I heard, the true magic happens when one stops trying to achieve something.

    KotishkalobsterpaulysotooDagobahZen
  • JeroenJeroen Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter Netherlands Veteran

    Often it is said that Zen is available from any situation. A little story…

    A Zen master and his young student were travelling through the forests. While walking, the student was wondering when the master would begin to teach him Zen. He asked the master, “so, master, how do I enter Zen?” The master replied, “Do you hear the forest stream?” The student thought about this, and at long last his mind grew silent, and the world became vivid, and far away in the distance he could hear the murmur of flowing water. “Master, I can hear the stream,” he said excitedly. “Enter Zen from there,” replied the master.

    Zazen is a beautiful practice, I enjoy just sitting once in a while. But eventually you find it becomes easier, and you get to take your Zen with you, and posture and facing the wall are no longer important except as occasional reminders.

    Jeffrey
  • paulysotoopaulysotoo usa Veteran

    @Shoshin1 said:

    So… is this it, then?

    Yep that sounds about it...
    In Zen mind Beginner's mind, Shunryu Suzuki says just focus on your posture. According to Shunryu Suzuki, sitting correctly, with full presence, is enlightenment in action.

    Right posture/practice
    Suzuki teaches that zazen is not a means to an end, it's not to “get” enlightenment or escape problems. The practice is the realisation.

    “Zazen is not a means to an end. It is the practice of the Buddha.”

    Right attitude
    This is the heart of Suzuki’s teaching. He constantly returns to the beginner's mind

    “In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities; in the expert's mind there are few.”

    Right understanding
    Suzuki's Zen isn’t about intellectual mastery, it’s experiential. Understanding comes through doing.

    "True understanding arises from direct experience in zazen, not from concepts or words"

    Thus have I heard, the true magic happens when one stops trying to achieve something.

    superb point :+1:

    just be lead to do

    those who have affinity to daozen will be change inside out...blossoming peace and love.

    in time you are and is

    lobsterDagobahZen
  • paulysotoopaulysotoo usa Veteran

    @lobster

    do you practice dzogchen..d(z)og-chen is chan?

    would love your perspective. my perspective of dzogchen is zen true nature or awaken nature is u. it is recognize you zen... meditative aware?

  • paulysotoopaulysotoo usa Veteran
    edited April 23

    this video help about dzogchen
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    how wonderful...daozen in tibet buddhism

  • paulysotoopaulysotoo usa Veteran

    ground of being. ty dzogchen...the heart of be and do.

    yes ty the infinite dao dharma-key-awe.

    dao is dogchen....amuzed...our realigion is no falsehood,love the the law of earth.

  • paulysotoopaulysotoo usa Veteran

    how wonderful we zenist is the gap between thera and vajray.
    one vehicle...buddha way.

    i rest my dogstar project.....a dog like me dont live long but is greatful to exist. yes due to smoking cigz i have heart problems...but long enough to experience zen.

    now enjoy my true nature, a human being,

    yes the is our maker the dharmakaya. but her presence is everywhere in our samsara.

    she is the dao.

    i can rest in peace when my conditionality comes full circle.
    i saw what shakymoon pointed out....the pointing out in dzogchen, the pink moon...the significan God is not a man who should lie...her samsara is nirvana

    and nirvana born from the unborn.

  • KotishkaKotishka Veteran

    The opportunities which lie behind each instant! From doing good, from refraining to cause harm.

    What are the possibilities beyond the stillness of zazen?

    This is my reflection: the more I sit, the more I remember those instances of stillness and how the heaps, my perceptions and preferences adjust the different phenomena into "good, bad, meh" and their respective reactions.

    Argh! Autopilot mode is still strong..

    lobster
  • Shoshin1Shoshin1 Sentient Being Oceania Veteran

    I'm under the impression that when it comes to all things Dharma, problems arise when one doesn't actually know what it is one really wants...

    If it is peace of mind, what is stopping peace of mind from manifesting ? The desire for it, is the cause of unrest.

    This fluctuating sense of self that seeks peace is part of the disturbance.

    "To study the self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to be actualised by myriad things."!

    ~Dōgen Zenji,~

    Kotishkalobster
  • JeroenJeroen Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter Netherlands Veteran

    I find that much of wisdom has to do with letting things soak in… I came across this video, which says much about water and water management:

    Like managing watersheds through the monsoon, wisdom takes the long view. It looks at what is happening in your life, how you relate to other beings, corporeal and incorporeal. It views what sinks to the bottom, and sees what can be learned from it.

    Just sitting allows the silence to soak through you. It allows the mind to become quiet.

    person
  • paulysotoopaulysotoo usa Veteran

    to our doh($) G star hero my brother in buddhachrist : robert johnson
    his life and legacy is witness by our dao mom earth.
    the message from mom earth, believe in your self--life can be rough--and sing your blues on....

    ....the buddha/christ nature can happen.....those who can see and feel our godfather...God set up christ in liberty new americas....my lotuscross brother....
    [

    our dogstar faith, we live on,
    last post will be back in five years seeing buddhist and christian love our dao heart shine
    on our ma God earth

    KotishkaShoshin1
  • KotishkaKotishka Veteran

    Thank you for such a great song.

  • JeroenJeroen Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter Netherlands Veteran

    @Kotishka said:
    So… is this it, then? There’s no real goal—just a lifelong practice of learning to sit and simply be, whether it's raining, you're heartbroken, or you're high on some success at work.

    Hmm, some of the quotes in the No Buddhist Quotes thread imply that there is no path to enlightenment, that maybe it happens but there is nothing you can do about it. That once you see it, you realise this was it all along, and it has always been this.

    For me, what happened was that a great deal of time spent alone slowly caused things to start dropping away. As you lose the trappings of society, you come more to stillness and quiet inside. It’s not like quiet outside, just a matter of noise, but slowly there is a cessation.

    lobster
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