Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Examples: Monday, today, last week, Mar 26, 3/26/04
Welcome home! Please contact lincoln@icrontic.com if you have any difficulty logging in or using the site. New registrations must be manually approved which may take several days. Can't log in? Try clearing your browser's cookies.

What is my practice? Where is my practice? Who is my teacher?

KotishkaKotishka Veteran
edited April 25 in Meditation

I have been attempting to practice Buddhism for almost 6 years now. The issue here is how I have drifted from Tibetan to Theravada to Zen to....perennial/samsaric spiritual materialism and then back to start.

I am now sitting using my ikea stool plus zafu, following shikantaza instructions and the specific hand mudra associated to this practice. I am sometimes though drawn back to my second Buddhist teacher, Ajahn Sona, and do sutta study and practice the 8NB. However, his practice is shamatha (or anapanasati; is that even the same? I'm I mixing terms?). Meanwhile I practice shikantaza...that being.... I face the wall, eyes slightly open, straight back, and bam: let it start baby!

Thank you for your time. A lost meditator here seeking advice once again..

Shoshin1

Comments

  • JeroenJeroen Not all those who wander are lost Netherlands Veteran

    The lost asking the lost…

    I did much the same: I started with Thich Nhat Hanh, then I went to the Tibetans, then I found Ajahn Chah and the Thai Forest Tradition, then there was some Zen. It went on and on.

    But I found each teacher left me with something, a core teaching and an insight.

  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran

    In my opinion this sort of practice is fine for us worldlings making our way. I think if you wanted to go deeper finding a teacher and focusing in would be needed then.

  • KotishkaKotishka Veteran

    Without boring you with the details, I did hit rock-bottom a couple of months ago and it kind of clicked: the entire Buddhist narrative and basically how much self-deception I had been feeding myself. Like the façades of buildings in centre Pyongyang. Beautiful outside, colourful yet empty and rotten inside.

    I have seen how practice and Buddhism just makes me live better as a human being, maybe you do not need to label certain aspects with "Buddhist only" as I have grown closer to other inspirational/wise men. Some of them are scientists or health professionals I've worked with and, while completely non-spiritual, taught me a lot.

    I want to dwell deeper and right now my path is to renunciate to excessive material things, keeping myself light, both physically (losing weight), mentally (dropping toxic/unwholesome thoughts), and also my actions (smoking, cursing, lying).

    I remember once How told me that Buddhism was more about practice rather than theory, without discrediting the need for some theory. I think I am more of an intellectual / academic Buddhist more than an actual practioner/folllower....hence I want to deepen my practice.

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/10/27/opinion/00mit1-12/00mit1-12-superJumbo.jpg

    marcitko
  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran

    @Kotishka said:
    I remember once How told me that Buddhism was more about practice rather than theory, without discrediting the need for some theory. I think I am more of an intellectual / academic Buddhist more than an actual practioner/folllower....hence I want to deepen my practice.

    Yes, in the end it is about practice. But in the metaphor of the finger pointing to the moon, to say the finger doesn't matter is over negating. The finger is important in that it shows us where to look, we then need to actually look. Plus we all have differing personalities and dispositions, its important to find a path that works with our tendencies rather than requiring us to change deep set things about us in order to progress on the path.

  • Shoshin1Shoshin1 Sentient Being Oceania Veteran

    Thank you for your time. A lost meditator here seeking advice once again.

    Practice for the sake of practice with no expectations in mind.

    And now for the perfect practice paradox

    Practice makes perfect, and perfect practice makes perfect practice. Perfect practice is accepting that practice is not always perfect. For if it is perfect, it can no longer be practice, and if it is no longer practice, then why practice?

    In other words @Kotishka, what is happening is practice in motion, the ups and downs, the trials and errors, the swings and roundabouts: Dukkha, Sukha, Sukha, Dukkha, the rhythm of life in Samsara.

    FosdickKotishkahow
  • LionduckLionduck Veteran

    My Buddhism is Based o the Lotus Sutra. Specifically SGI.
    My practice is everywhere
    My teacher is everyone and everything
    Seriously, my primary practice is at home and at weekly gatherings.
    I learn and grow through interaction with fellow practitioners, mentors, personal study
    and normal (occasionally not so normal) interaction within my environment - living.
    Generally, if you think your Buddhist practice begin an ends with your formal practice,
    think gain. Everyone and everything is and can be your teacher, your mentor.
    The practice of Buddhism is the practice of living.
    Yes, you will stumble.
    Yes you will wander and wonder.
    Perfection is not the point.

    Peace to all

    Kotishka
  • paulysotoopaulysotoo usa Veteran

    @Kotishka said:

    I have seen how practice and Buddhism just makes me live better as a human being,

    >
    that is the whole point for me too. being a decent person makes it all worthwile. the ground work is so important, that is why we do the precept. you will give a vibe to others i love you as me co equal love and respect. the middle way is right way. right intention/thought is the grounding for me to keep at it with the 5 precept.

    I want to dwell deeper and right now my path is to renunciate to excessive material things, keeping myself light, both physically (losing weight), mentally (dropping toxic/unwholesome thoughts), and also my actions (smoking, cursing, lying).

    for me as a layperson i renunciate not with the world,middle way but renunciate the poison of the mind...extreame greed, extreame hatred and extreame delusion displayed by trump who is a dump.so trump is my teacher who blaspheme god and the dharma to never be like that in the world. bet on it sam God will deal with him. silly he thinks he is God like cesar niro the antichrist spirit.

    but in the meantime you are doing fine. you and me will head the buddhas advise...do good refrain from bad and purify the mind is sound advice i and you take to heart.

  • lobsterlobster lobster Pureland Veteran
    edited May 3

    > A lost meditator here seeking advice once again..

    1. Getting Lost is a directive for finding or re-finding and refining
    2. Meditate as badly as you can, a lot harder than you imagine
    3. Learn to breathe before you crawl, Walk before sitting, Stand in awe before sitting
    4. Do not trust lists of pointers. Rather trust the moon that is not an influencer

    Hope that helps (at least me) :mrgreen:

    meanwhile...
    https://laurahargreaves.com/tag/reflections/

    how
Sign In or Register to comment.