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Yes, I was just answering as I read along, and having a good old time.
Silly me ; ^ )
I think many people with far less time on their hands, will just read the question and answer it...and that is okay too, don't you think?
Anyway:
It is probably just more fun to say our own 5 words, very creative, even if you do not actually win by guessing someone else's words. Puzzles were never my strong point, any old way.
I found that some of the guesses were actually far better than the actual answer.
REALLY DARN GOOD! : ^ )
But that is just my opinion.
I would just let it ride if I were you. Maybe someone will say something OUTSTANDING.
What is the hurry to pull the plug?
It is a little like life. It isn't all about the winning, but how we play the game. ; ^ )
All things whatsover are not-self (sabbe dhamma anatta ti) = five words
Nothing should be clung to [as "I" and "mine"] = five words
"I am" is conceiving = five words - 1
"I am not" is conceiving = five words
"I shall be" is conceiving = five words
"I shall not be" is conceiving = five words + 1
"I shall perceive" is conceiving = five words
"I shall non-perceive" is conceiving = five words
Conceiving is a disease, a tumour, a cancer, a dart = five words x 2
By overcoming all conceivings one is a sage at peace = five words x 2
Knowing & seeing in this way, would you be inwardly perplexed about the present: "Am I?", "Am I not?" "What I am?" "How am I?" "Where has this being come from?" Where will it go?" = five words x 7
Buddha loves all including SriRamanaMaharshi = five words
Yes, I was just answering as I read along, and having a good old time.
Silly me ; ^ )
I think many people with far less time on their hands, will just read the question and answer it...and that is okay too, don't you think?
Anyway:
It is probably just more fun to say our own 5 words, very creative, even if you do not actually win by guessing someone else's words. Puzzles were never my strong point, any old way.
I found that some of the guesses were actually far better than the actual answer.
REALLY DARN GOOD! : ^ )
But that is just my opinion.
I would just let it ride if I were you. Maybe someone will say something OUTSTANDING.
What is the hurry to pull the plug?
It is a little like life. It isn't all about the winning, but how we play the game. ; ^ )
Of course we are all assuming that zendo's opening statement on page one was accurate. It may be just zendo's koan to get you all thinking. In fact there may be no answer, typical of so many zen koans.
Yep, those are all great. I was trying to convey the essence of sutra Mahamudra in the fewest words possible. I doubt it can be done in 5 English words unless your audience is already familiar with what you're talking about. But in that case, "Om" would suffice just as well.
There's no God but God = five words by Mohamed (PBUM).
S9: From Wall Street:
“Money is the only God.”
He perceives himself as Brahma.
He has not understood it.
S9: “Buddha Nature’/Brahman; same/same.”
“Buddha Nature is not perception.”
“Perception makes anything an object.”
Good man, have you never seen in the world a young tender infant lying prone, fouled in its own excrement & urine?" = five words x 4 + 2 (MN 130)
S9: Are we now going to claim that an encyclopedia is just a big bunch of 5 words alone beside each other?
All in a row?
“Cheating at something; isn’t improvement.” ; ^ )
Re: S9: “Dis-identifying with knowledge is freedom.” The Buddha did not say this. Please quote.
S9: Ah Dhamma, you lost track of the game we are playing. : ^ (
We were not quoting the Buddha. We were saying our own 5 words that summed up Buddhism for us.
I’ll give you a chance to collect yourself b/4 continuing to play the game with you.
Enlightenment comes from right perception = five words.
Enlightenment comes from "full comprehension" = five words.
Develop the perception of impermanence (MN 118) = five words
The Tathagata fully comprehends it (MN 1) = five words.
"The Tathagata — a worthy one, rightly self-awakened — directly knows earth as earth. Directly knowing earth as earth, he does not conceive [concoct] things about earth, does not conceive things in earth, does not conceive things coming out of earth, does not conceive earth as 'mine,' does not delight in earth. Why is that? Because the Tathagata has fully comprehended it [to the end], I tell you.
Indeed, your own five words.
Indeed, certainly a game.
Game is not skill. Wrong understanding is not skill.
Declaring Brahma is the nature of enlightenment is not skill.
It's a strange but interesting fact that this thread opened the minds of many people before the answer was ever given, and continues to do so even long after the answer was known.
In this, it's not the destination that's important, but the striving toward reaching it... following the road.
S: It's a strange but interesting fact that this thread opened the minds of many people before the answer was ever given, and continues to do so even long after the answer was known.
S9: Yes, Buddha gave us the answer...we just have to figure out WHY it is the answer. ; ^ )
And:
I am enjoying the little practice of condensing my thoughts into the 5 words.
I used to really enjoy writing haiku, a Japanese form of poetry, which also has a very strict structure allowing only 17 syllables. At first the limited number of syllables in the simple 3-line poem seems restrictive, (lines 1,2,3 have 5,7,5 syllables respectively.) But after a while, when you get into the swing of it, the structure itself lends itself to some happy accidents of wisdom, and even serves up great beauty at times.
In ancient times they would often use haiku as a party game, as it became so very popular. Sometimes someone would say the first line, and the second person would say the second line, and so one, just for the fun of it, and even perhaps the edification of those present.
Haiku still remains quite popular, and has many magazines devoted to it in present day Japan.
Example: by Basho
An old pond!
A frog jumps in—
the sound of water.
Can you see/feel the Suchness in this? This is meant to be a feeling event. You not only see the event as if you were present, you also feel the silence within and perhaps between the words. Much like the awe of simple beauty can often introduce on our heart.
Haiku keenly observes the moment, which pertains to nature, or human nature, ostensibly, (almost like encapsulated mindfulness), yet at the same time it speaks eloquently of equanimity within each and every moment.
S: In this, it's not the destination that's important, but the striving toward reaching it... following the road.
S9: Yes, perhaps this is because when we finally get to our destination, we find (surprisingly) that we were (it was) HERE all along, and perspective was the name of the game. : ^ )
I'm watching "The Life of Buddha" (BBC) right now and a monk just summed up Buddhism in two words with "Practice mindfulness." Sound familiar, sukhita?
Comments
Z: Maybe turn them into a book called Buddhism In Five Words.
S9: Such a book could only have 5 pages with one word on each page. ; ^ )
Or a whole lot of empty pages, to meditate on, (on emptiness that is.)
Smiles,
S9
I wrote mine first, so as not to be influenced. Then I went back to read...
but alas:
no verb. : ^ (
My bad,
S9
Abandon knowledge, avoid all action.
Still reading,
S9
Know: no knowledge, no action.
I included this, because it’s so good.
Still reading,
S9
Hum:
How about:
Know what action is knowledge.
Still reading,
S9
You have come late to the game, so you may not know the "riddle" has already been "solved".
I've wondered whether I should post a "disclaimer" in the initial post, letting people know the question has been answered already.
But then again, that might take away the fun for newcomers.
Do you want me to explain?
Thanks for doing that!
Thanks for chiming in.
Yes, I was just answering as I read along, and having a good old time.
Silly me ; ^ )
I think many people with far less time on their hands, will just read the question and answer it...and that is okay too, don't you think?
Anyway:
It is probably just more fun to say our own 5 words, very creative, even if you do not actually win by guessing someone else's words. Puzzles were never my strong point, any old way.
I found that some of the guesses were actually far better than the actual answer.
REALLY DARN GOOD! : ^ )
But that is just my opinion.
I would just let it ride if I were you. Maybe someone will say something OUTSTANDING.
What is the hurry to pull the plug?
It is a little like life. It isn't all about the winning, but how we play the game. ; ^ )
Smiles,
S9
Practise action (karma) that ends action (karma) = five words.
Action ending action is N8FP = five words
Right knowledge causes right liberation = five words
Buddha loves all including Brahma = five words
Buddha loves all including Krishna = five words
:smilec:
These aggregates are not I = five words
These aggregrates I am not = five words
These aggregates are not myself = five worlds
All things whatsover are not-self (sabbe dhamma anatta ti) = five words
Nothing should be clung to [as "I" and "mine"] = five words
"I am" is conceiving = five words - 1
"I am not" is conceiving = five words
"I shall be" is conceiving = five words
"I shall not be" is conceiving = five words + 1
"I shall perceive" is conceiving = five words
"I shall non-perceive" is conceiving = five words
Conceiving is a disease, a tumour, a cancer, a dart = five words x 2
By overcoming all conceivings one is a sage at peace = five words x 2
Knowing & seeing in this way, would you be inwardly perplexed about the present: "Am I?", "Am I not?" "What I am?" "How am I?" "Where has this being come from?" Where will it go?" = five words x 7
Buddha loves all including SriRamanaMaharshi = five words
Book recommendation:
Thank you. I know you are well meaning in your sharing. Please take my words, and know that they are meant in the same spirit. : ^ )
“S9’s I is Buddha Nature.” (not ego's I)
“Brahman is synonymous with Buddha Nature.” (When we look it with an open mind to different word usage.)
“Dis-identifying with action equals freedom.”
“Knowledge is a mind’s child.
“Dis-identifying with knowledge is freedom.”
“Buddha Nature remains completely unstained.”
Buddha loves all including Krishna
Buddha loves all including Sri Ramana Maharshi
S9: Wow, isn’t that sweet? Do you love all these guys, too?
“Buddha transcended giving and withholding.” (of anything...even love.)
“Clinging only happens within separation.” (What would the One cling too?)
And:
“Buddha Nature is the One.” (Beyond dualism, healed from separation.)
“Conception is a mind child.”
“I Am’ transcends the mind.“
“Transcending mind is Pure Peace.”
“Only conceptual things can cling.”
“Looking directly eliminates all perplexity.”
Lastly 4 now:
"Compassion is love without strings."
Friendly regards,
S9
It might be interesting to see a few 5-word quotes from the book, ‘Buddhism is not what you think.’
Although:
“Buddhism isn’t what you think.”
Is a keeper. ; ^ )
Friendly regards,
S9
How about?
“The Essential Buddha is ineffable.”
“Compassion grows naturally from Clarity.”
Are 5 word answers addicting?
Maybe. ; ^ )
Has it come to this?
“Hello, I am a 5 word addict.”
“Hello S9.” ; ^ )
Friendly Regards,
S9
Z: I totally agree, S9!
S9: THANK GOD!
I thought that I was going to have to go “cold turkey.”
Friendly Regards,
S9 5 word addict ; ^ )
For me... my answer would be:
To sleep... perchance to dream.
He has not understood it = five words (MN1)
Good man, have you never seen in the world a young tender infant lying prone, fouled in its own excrement & urine?" = five words x 4 + 2 (MN 130)
The Buddha did not say this. Please quote.
Is 'Self' a stain?
Love is a social emotion or state. I can love them but would not take refuge in their doctrine for liberation. There teachings are not Buddha-Dhamma.
The Buddha did not say this. Please quote.
The Buddha did not say this. Please quote.
The Buddha definitely did not say this. MN 1 states the buddha did not adhere to this.
The Buddha did not say this. Please quote.
The Buddha did not say this. Please quote. But he did offer hundreds of discourses of eradicating without trace the "I am".
Others will adhere to their own views, hold onto them tenaciously and relinquish them with difficulty (MN 8) = 5 words x 3 + 1
Papanca is not The Way (5 words)
.
S9: From Wall Street:
“Money is the only God.”
He has not understood it.
S9: “Buddha Nature’/Brahman; same/same.”
“Buddha Nature is not perception.”
“Perception makes anything an object.”
S9: Are we now going to claim that an encyclopedia is just a big bunch of 5 words alone beside each other?
All in a row?
“Cheating at something; isn’t improvement.” ; ^ )
Re: S9: “Dis-identifying with knowledge is freedom.”
S9: Ah Dhamma, you lost track of the game we are playing. : ^ (
We were not quoting the Buddha. We were saying our own 5 words that summed up Buddhism for us.
I’ll give you a chance to collect yourself b/4 continuing to play the game with you.
Peace is a Skill,
S9
Enlightenment comes from "full comprehension" = five words.
Develop the perception of impermanence (MN 118) = five words
The Tathagata fully comprehends it (MN 1) = five words.
Indeed, certainly a game.
Game is not skill. Wrong understanding is not skill.
Declaring Brahma is the nature of enlightenment is not skill.
Skill leads to peace.
Peace is not skill.
Peace is peace.
S9: Right perception comes from insight.
S9: Insight is not mental doing.
S9: “We discover Ever Present Enlightenment.”
S9: “ All sentient beings are Enlightened.”
“ Illusion is simply a veil.”
S9: Discover that CHANGE is impermanence.
S9: Buddha saw through ALL concepts.
S9: Mental comprehensions are just concepts.
S9: Buddha transcended all mental objects.
S9: Buddha transcended his Great mind.
S9: Mind is constant change (AKA impermanence.)
Warm regards,
S9
HE he He he he = 5 words
It’s not over,
Until the Fat lady sings. = 5 words ; ^ )
Miles of smiles,
S9
Indeed, certainly a game.
Game is not skill. Wrong understanding is not skill.
Declaring Brahma is the nature of enlightenment is not skill.
S9: Play NICE!
; ^ ) ; ^ ) ; ^ ) ; ^ ) ; ^ ) = 5 winks back @ ya
Warm Regards,
S9
Friend S9,
Don't mind me, have fun! = 5 words
With kind regards,
Sukhita.
Thanks for your blessing Sukhita = 5
I didn’t want to offend. = 5
Sukhita is a good sport. = 5 ; ^ )
S9 is probably just silly. = 5
Miles of smile,
S9
Right perception itself is insight = five words.
Doing is karma not vipassana = five words.
Enlightenment sees characteristics of things = five words
Enlightenment is not self-absorbed awareness = five words
Infatuated with one's mirrored reflection = five words.
Hilter, Stalin, Bush were enlightened = five words.
Believing in permanence and Brahma = five words.
Infatuation with awareness is illusion = five words
Infatuation with awareness is veil = five words
Impermenance is not a concept = five words.
Comprehension is not a concept = five words.
Insight is not a concept = five words.
Transendence neither assertion or denial = five words
Transendence neither existence or non-existence = five words
Transendence neither conceptuality or non-conceptuality = five words
Records shows S9 fears impermanence = five words
S9 regards impermanence as "hell" = five words.
DD does not play nice = five words.
DD doesn't play with BuddhaDhamma = five words
:smilec:
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" Hilter, Stalin, Bush were enlightened = five words. "
.
We do not own Enlightenment.
Neither does Bush, Hitler, Stalin.
Enlightenment transcends all egoic mind.
All minds swim IN Enlightenment.
Warm Regards,
S9
In your opinion, certainly not in mine. ....but be happy having an imaginary paddle, S9.:)
.
Life sucks, get over it!
In this, it's not the destination that's important, but the striving toward reaching it... following the road.
S: It's a strange but interesting fact that this thread opened the minds of many people before the answer was ever given, and continues to do so even long after the answer was known.
S9: Yes, Buddha gave us the answer...we just have to figure out WHY it is the answer. ; ^ )
And:
I am enjoying the little practice of condensing my thoughts into the 5 words.
I used to really enjoy writing haiku, a Japanese form of poetry, which also has a very strict structure allowing only 17 syllables. At first the limited number of syllables in the simple 3-line poem seems restrictive, (lines 1,2,3 have 5,7,5 syllables respectively.) But after a while, when you get into the swing of it, the structure itself lends itself to some happy accidents of wisdom, and even serves up great beauty at times.
In ancient times they would often use haiku as a party game, as it became so very popular. Sometimes someone would say the first line, and the second person would say the second line, and so one, just for the fun of it, and even perhaps the edification of those present.
Haiku still remains quite popular, and has many magazines devoted to it in present day Japan.
Example: by Basho
An old pond!
A frog jumps in—
the sound of water.
Can you see/feel the Suchness in this? This is meant to be a feeling event. You not only see the event as if you were present, you also feel the silence within and perhaps between the words. Much like the awe of simple beauty can often introduce on our heart.
Haiku keenly observes the moment, which pertains to nature, or human nature, ostensibly, (almost like encapsulated mindfulness), yet at the same time it speaks eloquently of equanimity within each and every moment.
S: In this, it's not the destination that's important, but the striving toward reaching it... following the road.
S9: Yes, perhaps this is because when we finally get to our destination, we find (surprisingly) that we were (it was) HERE all along, and perspective was the name of the game. : ^ )
Warm Regards,
S9
Life sucks = 1st Noble Truth
Get over it = 3rd Noble Truth
:cool: