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Compassion is counting up each time HE automatically contradicts me or swears at me and when the tally reaches a total of 20 I can have a bar of chocolate - it saves me reacting or using bad speech.
"You only have to love people, you don't have to like them"Quaker Aunt Muriel.
I love this - it encompasses right everything .... which is about my level of understanding because if Fede is a Bear of very little brain ... I am a Bipolar Bear of diminished resources mentally and what remains is variable in the extreme
"You only have to love people, you don't have to like them"Quaker Aunt Muriel.
I love this - it encompasses right everything .... which is about my level of understanding because if Fede is a Bear of very little brain ... I am a Bipolar Bear of diminished resources mentally and what remains is variable in the extreme
As a graduate student, my tutor at Oxford was a Quaker. Being nosy and fascinated by religions, I asked him about the Friends. His reply still makes the hair stand up on my neck (I was 23; he in his 60s, published, revered). He said:
"Forget all the doctrine and practice. Just remember this: you are unique; you are uniquely valuable. You have never been seen before and will never be seen again. And I meet God in you."
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federicaSeeker of the clear blue sky...Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubtModerator
And that is why I am so very drawn to the Quakers - I have been with my aunt to Meeting and I have met Quakers from all kinds of different origins ... but they are all wonderful, unprejudiced and willing to find common points with anyone of any faith or none, rather than home in on the differences.
Their simplicity and sense of obligation to others is a knock out to me.
That's a great one, Jacx! I must have heard and read variations of that many times but for some reason the way you wrote it out hit me like a ton of bricks tonight. Maybe it's because I just watched the self immolation video on YouTube.
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education"
-Mark Twain
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federicaSeeker of the clear blue sky...Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubtModerator
edited March 2008
'All things come out of the One and the One out of all things. ... I see nothing but Becoming. Be not deceived! It is the fault of your limited outlook and not the fault of the essence of things if you believe that you see firm land anywhere in the ocean of Becoming and Passing. You need names for things, just as if they had a rigid permanence, but the very river in which you bathe a second time is no longer the same one which you entered before.'
I was struck yesterday, when my magazine arrived how many Buddhist quotations there were in a Quaker publication. Here are two of them
Earth brings us into life and nourishes us
Earth takes us back again
Birth and death are present in every moment - Thich Nhat Hanh
No one can see who does not kindle a light of his own - The Buddha ..... this ties in EXACTLY with the Quaker principal of personal experience of God (Light Spirit)
I've been running into similarities between Buddhism and Quakerism a lot recently, too, Knitwitch. It started with your postings on here, then I ran into it in some of my book reading, then my sister brought some things up and yesterday someone was talking about it on the TV. Funny how things like that happen.
I think Buddhism and Quakerism, even though there's a higher power in Quakerism, are the most similar in substance of all religions.
Go to the pine if you want to learn about the pine, or to the bamboo if you want to learn about the bamboo. And in doing so, you must leave your subjective preoccupation with yourself. Otherwise you impose yourself on the object and do not learn. Your poetry issues of its own accord when you have plunged deep enough into the object to see something like a hidden glimmering there. However well phrased your poetry may be, if your feeling is not natural — if the object and yourself are separate — then your poetry is not true poetry but merely your subjective counterfeit.
This monk is a believer! I just found this image on the 'net, but I know somebody who actually visited Thailand's "Tiger Temple" (Wat Pha Luang Ta Bua).
Just found this thread and have yet 2 check out ALL the postings.
Here are a couple I have found recently -
The Sufis advise us to speak only after our words have managed to pass through three gates. At the first gate, we ask ouselves, 'Are these words true?' If so, we let them pass on; if not, back they go. At the second gate, we ask, 'Are they necessary?' At the last gate, we ask, 'Are they kind?'
~ Eknath Easwaran
"All the various teachings and practices of Zen are only to encourage you to individually look back into yourself and discover your original mind, so that you may know your essential nature and rest in a state of great peace & happiness."
This is a nifty site - you can search for any author or topic and each page you go to gives a 'random' quote as well. Tosses up some interesting ones ...
When people start to meditate or to work with any kind of spiritual discipline, they often think that somehow they're going to improve, which is a sort of subtle aggression against who they really are. It's a bit like saying, "If I jog, I'll be a much better person." "If I could only get a nicer house, I'd be a better person." "If I could meditate and calm down, I'd be a better person"...
But loving-kindness - maitri - toward ourselves doesn't mean getting rid of anything. Maitri means that we can still be crazy after all these years. We can still be angry after all these years. We can still be timid or jealous or full of feelings of unworthiness. The point is not to try to change ourselves.
Meditation practice isn't about trying to throw ourselves away and become something better. It's about befriending who we are already. The ground of practice is you or me or whoever we are right now, just as we are. That's the ground, that's what we study, that's what we come to know with tremendous curiosity and interest.
~ Pema Chodron, The Wisdom of No Escape and the Path of Loving-Kindness
According to my experience, it is clear that if each individual makes an effort then he or she can change. Of course, change is not immediate and it takes a lot of time. In order to change and deal with emotions it is crucial to analyse which thoughts are useful, constructive and of benefit to us. I mean mainly those thoughts which make us calmer, more relaxed and which give us peace of mind, versus those thoughts which create uneasiness, fear and frustration.
The misuse and over-use of the word "love"....always bugs me.
For example, I have seen this quote in this forum:
>>The Buddha addressed: "Hatred never ceases through hatred, but hatred ceases by love alone. ...."
And another one that recently passed by my ears...."Mankind must find a way to deal with human conflict without the elements of revenge, aggression or retaliation; the basis of that new method will be love." (Im paraphrasing here)
And the ever popular "Love thy enemy"
As soon as I achieve sainthood, I'll be able to follow all that good advice.
But wait!
Suppose we changed the word "love" to "non-hatred"
I can start practicing non hatred towards my enemies right now!
I can find ways to resolve conflict that involve non-hatred right now!
Hatred can be appeased by non-hatred right now.....
perhaps these are tiny distinctions....but it is the difference between being
something I can start doing right now...
and something I have to put up on a lofty pedestal that I hope to aspire to sometime in
an imagined future.
Thanks for listening,
Gassho,
VL
PS: The way you folks add art and little hopping cartoons to your words is most impressive.
I shall work on that.
'Is this really meditation?' people often ask. 'Is it really that easy?' If these meditatuion instructions sound almost too simple to believe, there is another oft-told story about the Buddha: Once an elderly grandmother came to him, telling him that she too would like to reach emlightenment; she too would like to learn how to meditate. But, as she explained, she was very old, infirm, illiterate and busy with family obligations and household chores. She couldn't renounce her family and enter a monastic order. However, she was already open and conscious enough to perceive the beaming countenances of the enlightened Buddha and many of his followers. It was her heart's desire to learn to meditate in order to join them in developing spiritually.
The Buddha told her, 'Respected grandmother, every time you draw water from the well for you and your family, remain aware of every single act, movement and motion of your hands. As you are carrying home the water jug atop your head, be aware of every step of your feet; as you do your chores, maintain continuous mindfulness and awareness every single instant, moment after moment, and you too will become a master of meditation.'
These instructions, which reflect the essence of simplicity, are not always so easy to follow. Have you ever had the experience of having to pick up a brimming bowl of hot soup in your hands wahile you were wearing dress clothes? Do you remember the alertly vigilant state of mind you maintained until you were able to put the bowl down? In mindfulness meditation, we cradle the present moment in the very same way.
Namaste
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federicaSeeker of the clear blue sky...Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubtModerator
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-Arthur Schopenhauer
advertisement on TV a few years back which makes us howl with laughter - any time we don't know the answer in this house we say it
WTF!?!??! --me
Been using it a lot lately.
-bf
Compassion is counting up each time HE automatically contradicts me or swears at me and when the tally reaches a total of 20 I can have a bar of chocolate - it saves me reacting or using bad speech.
"You only have to love people, you don't have to like them"Quaker Aunt Muriel.
I love this - it encompasses right everything .... which is about my level of understanding because if Fede is a Bear of very little brain ... I am a Bipolar Bear of diminished resources mentally and what remains is variable in the extreme
As a graduate student, my tutor at Oxford was a Quaker. Being nosy and fascinated by religions, I asked him about the Friends. His reply still makes the hair stand up on my neck (I was 23; he in his 60s, published, revered). He said:
"Forget all the doctrine and practice. Just remember this: you are unique; you are uniquely valuable. You have never been seen before and will never be seen again. And I meet God in you."
Their simplicity and sense of obligation to others is a knock out to me.
-Groucho Marx
It kind of hit me like that too, when my instructor said that. It's the 2nd form of the Shibashi set:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7dtCxq6cQw :ninja:
PS- That's not my instructor in the video! I just found it on YouTube.
Hehe I like Groucho Marx. I found this quote from him on a list of quotes on the wall about dogs at the vet's office.
I think this quote is more about books than it is about dogs though.
http://www.wildmind.org/blogs/quote-of-the-month/ann-landers-resentment
-Mark Twain
(Heraclitus 500 BC)
"Walk cheerfully over the world, answering that of God (Light/Buddha) in every one" George Fox
Earth brings us into life and nourishes us
Earth takes us back again
Birth and death are present in every moment - Thich Nhat Hanh
No one can see who does not kindle a light of his own - The Buddha ..... this ties in EXACTLY with the Quaker principal of personal experience of God (Light Spirit)
I think Buddhism and Quakerism, even though there's a higher power in Quakerism, are the most similar in substance of all religions.
Go to the pine if you want to learn about the pine, or to the bamboo if you want to learn about the bamboo. And in doing so, you must leave your subjective preoccupation with yourself. Otherwise you impose yourself on the object and do not learn. Your poetry issues of its own accord when you have plunged deep enough into the object to see something like a hidden glimmering there. However well phrased your poetry may be, if your feeling is not natural — if the object and yourself are separate — then your poetry is not true poetry but merely your subjective counterfeit.
May you walk in light and peace and love all the days of your life.
I just read that today (47th anniversary of his flight), and liked it.
"Beep - Beep - Beep"
I remember listening to Sputnik and my whole being expanding into a vast and mysterious universe.
Palzang
Just found this thread and have yet 2 check out ALL the postings.
Here are a couple I have found recently -
The Sufis advise us to speak only after our words have managed to pass through three gates. At the first gate, we ask ouselves, 'Are these words true?' If so, we let them pass on; if not, back they go. At the second gate, we ask, 'Are they necessary?' At the last gate, we ask, 'Are they kind?'
~ Eknath Easwaran
"All the various teachings and practices of Zen are only to encourage you to individually look back into yourself and discover your original mind, so that you may know your essential nature and rest in a state of great peace & happiness."
~ Yuansou
http://www.rudyh.org/dalai-lama-quotes-quotations.htm
More 2 follow ...
Peace~Love~Happiness
http://www.randomquotes.org/quote/189-happiness-is-not-a-destination-it-is-a-method-of-.html
Peace~Love~Happiness
But loving-kindness - maitri - toward ourselves doesn't mean getting rid of anything. Maitri means that we can still be crazy after all these years. We can still be angry after all these years. We can still be timid or jealous or full of feelings of unworthiness. The point is not to try to change ourselves.
Meditation practice isn't about trying to throw ourselves away and become something better. It's about befriending who we are already. The ground of practice is you or me or whoever we are right now, just as we are. That's the ground, that's what we study, that's what we come to know with tremendous curiosity and interest.
~ Pema Chodron, The Wisdom of No Escape and the Path of Loving-Kindness
http://grjallen.fortunecity.com/buddha.htm
Peace~Love~Happiness
~ from "The Dalai Lama's Little Book of Wisdom"
For example, I have seen this quote in this forum:
>>The Buddha addressed: "Hatred never ceases through hatred, but hatred ceases by love alone. ...."
And another one that recently passed by my ears...."Mankind must find a way to deal with human conflict without the elements of revenge, aggression or retaliation; the basis of that new method will be love." (Im paraphrasing here)
And the ever popular "Love thy enemy"
As soon as I achieve sainthood, I'll be able to follow all that good advice.
But wait!
Suppose we changed the word "love" to "non-hatred"
I can start practicing non hatred towards my enemies right now!
I can find ways to resolve conflict that involve non-hatred right now!
Hatred can be appeased by non-hatred right now.....
perhaps these are tiny distinctions....but it is the difference between being
something I can start doing right now...
and something I have to put up on a lofty pedestal that I hope to aspire to sometime in
an imagined future.
Thanks for listening,
Gassho,
VL
PS: The way you folks add art and little hopping cartoons to your words is most impressive.
I shall work on that.
Not sure who said it
Namaste
~ Zen proverb
Namaste
Namaste
~ Michael Leunig
http://www.freewebs.com/grjallen/curly2.htm
The Buddha told her, 'Respected grandmother, every time you draw water from the well for you and your family, remain aware of every single act, movement and motion of your hands. As you are carrying home the water jug atop your head, be aware of every step of your feet; as you do your chores, maintain continuous mindfulness and awareness every single instant, moment after moment, and you too will become a master of meditation.'
These instructions, which reflect the essence of simplicity, are not always so easy to follow. Have you ever had the experience of having to pick up a brimming bowl of hot soup in your hands wahile you were wearing dress clothes? Do you remember the alertly vigilant state of mind you maintained until you were able to put the bowl down? In mindfulness meditation, we cradle the present moment in the very same way.
Namaste
Please enlighten me as to why it's only half true. Which half?
I'm all ears
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alberteins121678.html
Peace~LOve~Happiness
"God is a comedian playing to an audience who's too afraid to laugh."