‘ The phrase “Let them” was originally written by poet Cassie Phillips, whose work has not been credited in Robbins’ promotion of the theory. While Robbins has undoubtedly brought the idea to a larger audience, failing to acknowledge its original creator raises ethical concerns about intellectual property and fair recognition.
Beyond this issue, there’s also an important conversation to be had about when “letting them” is helpful—and when it’s potentially harmful. While letting go is a powerful practice in many situations, it’s not a universal solution, especially in cases of abuse, neglect, or when boundaries need to be enforced.
Therapists often talk about locus of control, the idea that people fall somewhere on a spectrum between believing:
External control (“Everything happens to me.”)
Internal control (“I create my own outcomes.”)
Shifting toward an internal locus of control means understanding that you can’t always control others—but you can control how you respond. Instead of chasing validation, forcing relationships, or stressing over someone else’s actions, you shift your focus to what you can do.
When applied correctly, The Let Them Theory aligns with these healthy psychological shifts. But there are times when “letting them” is absolutely the wrong approach.‘
https://www.abraverspace.com/blog/the-problem-with-let-them-theory
Vastmind
@Jeroen said:
So I was thinking about a new Top 5, made of movies which are favourites of mine but which are actually uplifting, fun, insightful films
It’s actually interesting, I’m not the only one to have made this distinction, or something like it. The YouTube channel Like Stories of Old made a video essay about the 50 most life changing films, which I devoted a solid three hours to watching in it’s entirety, in the hope of picking up on a few films that I hadn’t seen yet which would move the needle.
While I don’t entirely agree with LSOO’s film list, the fact that he split up his list into ten chapters each with a theme I could get behind. The inclusion of the 10-hour documentary Shoah and then leaving out Schindler’s List, or not including Saving Private Ryan on the war films, or including Kingdom of Heaven but not Gladiator on goodness and virtue, I found a little strange.
Anyway here is the whole list…
Jeroen
@Jeroen said:
@IdleChater said:
if you’re having mental health issues, take them to a doctor and not to a forum like this.With the proviso that a doctor will likely prescribe you pills, which will have side effects, etc.
There could easily be different treatment plans offered to or even accepted by the patient. Medication is one option of at least several that can be used with other methods/approaches. My experience has shown that different treatment plans work for different people. It’s important that a mental health care provider work with a patient to optimize results… that the patient is willing and comfortable with.
And yes, most things we ingest have side effects. That’s not a reason to avoid medications if/when they’re needed. It’s just called making an informed decision and weighing the risks with the need.
Yes, I do think everyone was trying to help. No harmful or ill intent in this community. I just prefer to go on the safer side and suggest a professional when it comes to mental health issues.
Thanks Ren for the section reference. I sure went and read it. I knew there was something on the books, just didn’t know where/what.
Vastmind
Jon Kabat-Zinn is a professor of medicine and teacher of Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction
Jeffrey
I know a medical practitioner who practices what is supposed to be a hybrid of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy and mindfulness but in fact, what they do is actually far more therapy than mindfulness and I felt that they had no understanding of meditation. They also said that sometimes they "hate meditating."
Tavs
In terms of meditation and medical treatment from doctors, I'm trying to get a balance.
Tavs
@Tavs said:
RAIN exercise, I've not heard of that, what is it?
I was curious about that too. I found this: https://www.tarabrach.com/rain/
If nothing else, it seems like another flavor of guided meditation that one can add to their spice rack. 
In my experience I have found rest, beach walks, contemplation and Buddhist literature to be conducive to restoring mental health. I enjoyed sutra anthologies a lot in this space, as long as you keep in mind that not every goal the Buddha sets his monks needs to be a goal for you. Relaxation and rest should be the primary concern, letting the body and mind heal themselves.
Jeroen
@IdleChater said:
If you're having mental health issues, take them to a doctor and not a forum like this.
I think there's room for both things. Seemed to me that Tavs was reaching out with some curiosity about how his practice and mental health challenges were (or were not) related.
@IdleChater said:
It would be the OP's right to sue your ass off if they take your advice, and they are psychologically injured as a result. The owners of the site could be sued as well.End of the site. End of our community. End of your savings.
I was going to stay out of this because I said my piece already. But that's not correct. Section 230 protects the forum and the site. Not only that, but the OP would bear a significant amount of legal responsibility for deciding to take medical advice from an unverified source online.
But the OP would never sue anybody, because he is a member of our community who shared his thoughts in good faith. More than one person responded that seeing a medical professional was first and foremost. And Tavs certainly wasn't asking about any kind of dosage for anything, so the diabetes comment is false equivalency.
With multiple people reminding Tavs that a doctor was necessary up front, the air was cleared for others to share their thoughts in loving-kindness, which I believe is the point of the forum.