signs are helpful guide. u-turn sign and a bumper sticker gave me a meal;god allow u-turn. we can change our sercumstances. change our life for the better is wonderful,imo.
You got lucky….By being more cautious than they were.
Cautious means being careful and avoiding risk or danger or problems. It can also mean being prudent and watchful, or exercising forethought.
Lucky means meeting with unforeseen success. Favorable chance.
I guess some kids have it and some don’t, huh?
I’m reading exactly what you’re writing. In fact, trying to get it down to minimum wordage to try to get you to understand how it’s landing. The words you’re choosing are your responsibility, not mine.
“Free love lead to unforeseen consequences “…and “ too friendly” annd “not impeccable “ are interesting choices for unethical, unfair and some horrific acts. Cmon now. Your use of soft and flowery language is for a reason. Think about it.
Vastmind
As opposed to those who “allowed” them to approach?. You really don’t see anything wrong with what you’re saying? You’re victim blaming.
“Victim blaming can be defined as someone saying, implying, or treating a person who has experienced harmful or abusive behaviour (such as a survivor of sexual violence) like it was a result of something they did or said, instead of placing the responsibility where it belongs: on the person who harmed them
These responses often stem from a belief that there are specific things people can do to avoid being harmed, a comforting belief that increases the bias holder’s feeling of safety….”
Vastmind
Yep @Jeroen, Sheela did it.
His closest disciple. Blame someone else. Preferably a woman.
Watch the documentary and find any proof a normal person needs.
Do you feel people who support Bhagwan and his continuing communes are incapable of lying, exposure and criminality?
I am not your deprogrammer incidentally. Here you go though...
https://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/2011/04/part_one_it_was_worse_than_we.html
lobster
@Jeroen said:
I’m pretty sure Osho knew nothing about it…
I am certain you are wrong.
Pedophiles, predators, self entitled parents, enablers, El Papa Popes, Dali lama's etc are adults AND choose their ‘priorities’ and blind eyes.
Do we protect:
…who do not always have the capacity to choose their abusers?
We are all hypocrites when it comes to our capacities, predilections and choices.
No one is an exception. Apart from?
This is a post by a lobster hypocrite
lobster
Isn't any form of outspoken extreme personality a bit crazy? Maybe he has a condition nobody has yet diagnosed or revealed... sometimes what we read, is not all we can know, and all we sew might be tempered to attract bigger audiences. Trend-setters, and those who tread unchartered territories are always subject to scrutiny. And humanity loves nothing better to build someone a pedestal, only to then take delight in knocking them off it...
federica
I’m not in need of a deprogrammer, but thanks for thinking of me. From all the hours of discourses I’ve listened to, I have a pretty sound idea of who Bhagwan was, and he wasn’t a pedophile. And yes, a lot of the crimes on the Ranch did originate with Sheela and her gang of cronies. A lot of the worst abuse stories seem to originate from the English commune Medina, far away from the Ranch.
As far as the current commune leadership is concerned, I don’t really know that much about them, although I have heard they are not impeccable in their conduct, mostly around financial matters.
I was just reading this…
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/12/abuse-rajneesh-cult-children-communes
Jeroen
@Jeroen said:
So it put me in mind of who I was ten years ago, before I studied Buddhism, Nisargadatta, Poonjaji, and all the rest. In a way I don’t think I was that different, more impatient certainly.
I have been a little more engaged in retrospection, and maybe I have changed more than I thought. There are many things I have let go of, like playing games, watching television series, reading endless numbers of science fiction novels, watching the news… the way I spend my time is very different now.
Lately I have even been letting go of food, first of all by listening to my body and skipping meals when I am actually not hungry. I’ve also simplified my eating patterns, relying on fruit and nuts and raw veg to keep it healthy enough to really sustain me, without being locked into “three meals a day”.
But as far as a culmination to the Ten Years of Wisdom is concerned, I’m reading fewer books of wisdom now, keeping my own counsel more, being less caught up in enthusiasms. I’m writing a few more pieces, and while I’m writing I am observing my thoughts. It’s writing as an exercise in witnessing. And occasionally I do nothing at all.
“Sitting silently, doing nothing, the spring comes and the grass grows by itself.”
— Zen saying
Jeroen
A different/contrary view on the allegations: Laura Hof, Wim's daughter, shared as a google doc in the official Wim Hof Facebook group.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GI4Bbk9lpOV8h9UxUa0qUgPRl5qL26S7ML-NtkFETY4/edit?usp=drivesdk