A friend suggested I take a look at this after I posted the Socrates quote “the only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing”. There is a certain irony in attempting to fill up the nothing with more knowledge, but the Zen approach to the don’t-know mind means that after you reach that state of mind, you might see something.
The don’t know mind is actually a state of stopping, because you have reached a point where the mind has given up. It can happen that you acknowledge that you have done everything possible to get a glimpse of enlightenment and your mind and knowledge have failed you. Then for a moment the mind ‘does not know’ how to proceed.
Of course there are things that can stand in the way, pride for one, or an unwillingness to be honest with oneself. The moment can be lost, like so many. But any moment can be an entry point to Zen.
Jeroen
Hey Jeroen
A sincere Meditation practice can be an odd task for any mind, especially if our developed mentality has been the focal point of our identity.
We are, in a meditation practice, challenging the validity of the storyline of our own conditioning, and thereby threatening the very structure of our ego.
No wonder the twists and turns of our imaginary ego structure, which has provided a facade of stability against the background of life's underlying chaos, is slow to allow its own unraveling towards an impending uncertainty.
Often the greatest obstacle to finding a roots true source was always us, maintaining a greater value on our own mentality, than whatever process might challenge its fiefdom.
how
Perhaps that’s true @how… you think you’re busy with spiritual things, talking to spiritual friends and reading spiritual books, but look at it another way, and you’re interacting within a forum - on a screen - and you’re using an ebook reader - on a screen.
It put me in mind of a post I put on Medium, about the kinds of spiritual lives people can lead. For some people the best they can do is sing devotional songs, while other people learn the most from being in a forest listening to the silence. It is a question of knowing yourself and what suits you.
Jeroen
A simple quick mental body scan can work wonders for both body and mind...
Shoshin1
@Shoshin1 said:
A simple quick mental body scan can work wonders for both body and mind...
Are you then not still doing things? Even if it’s only focussing and moving the awareness.
Anxiety is often an overactive deep mental state… some deeper part of the mind that is fretting. If you meditate and intentionally try to slow down, be gentle, calm, then in my experience much of it disappears.
My question currently is whether the same mindset can be applied also during activity.
Zen says many activities lend themselves to this. I believe it would be mostly repetitive activities which would be best, like cutting grass with a scythe.
Jeroen
On odd occasions I might trip on an exposed Dukkha root on the Path and this is when I pick up my trusty walking stick to help get back on track...
"Great Faith and Great Doubt are two ends of a spiritual walking stick. We grip one end with the grasp given to us by our Great Determination. We poke into the underbrush in the dark on our spiritual journey. This act is real spiritual practice -- gripping the Faith end and poking ahead with the Doubt end of the stick. If we have no Faith, we have no Doubt. If we have no Determination, we never pick up the stick in the first place."
~Sensei Sevan Ross~
Shoshin1