Mainly I'm saying, if the voices start telling you to do harmful things for spiritual reasons, like try to fly or harm people who are possessed or something. Think twice, because they can be persuasive, especially if your used to believing them.
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@Bunks said:
@Kotishka said:
I agree haha. I have this tendency of overdoing and burning out 😵 Let's see how the challenge goes!Yes! Me too. Trying to do too much then beating myself up when I inevitably fail.
I’ve tried to keep it simple this year 🙏
Well done @Kotishka - I look forward to your updates
Me too
I suggest we aim to adopt an attitude of "these are the things we are working on", rather than "these are the things which we need to do perfectly immediately". Seems to me that if we are improving in wholesome areas we wish to improve in - all is well from the start.
Firstly one must ask what is enlightenment?
Otherwise one would be doing this ... just another goal.
AN 4.118 Saṁvejanīyasutta: Inspiring
“Mendicants, a faithful gentleman should go to see these four inspiring places. What four?
Thinking: ‘Here the Realized One was born!’—that is an inspiring place.
Thinking: ‘Here the Realized One became awakened as a supreme fully awakened Buddha!’—that is an inspiring place.
Thinking: ‘Here the Realized One rolled forth the supreme Wheel of Dhamma!’—that is an inspiring place.
Thinking: ‘Here the Realized One became fully extinguished in the element of extinguishment, with nothing left over!’—that is an inspiring place.
These are the four inspiring places that a faithful gentleman should go to see.”
Bunks
Betraying my Zen-flavored inclinations....
Trying to think one's way to enlightenment is like looking for the right wild fox to care for a henhouse.
The search for a mind-controlled enlightenment is most commonly limited by an underlying ego assumption that it's actually something that can be possessed.
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>>> can we know that something is eternal?
Yes.
If, as according to Kagyu teaching, it is real. To be real, it must be unique, unconditioned, and unchanging.
Then we have to find it. Far easier said, than done. A lifetime of practice may not reveal such a thing, but it might.
The US prison system is awful. It is a breeder of injustice, gangs and cruel punishments. In Spain it seems we have a better system. Larry Lawton, ex-convict (11years in Federal institutions) agreed with this as well as mentioning how certain European countries are just so advanced in this aspect.
The problem of rapes for example...and gang violence/activity...
https://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=9,3679,0,0,1,0
Here in an interview with Kobutsu Malone, revealing how this has not changed, perhaps it has even worsened:
" I actually got arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1968. I was at a friend’s house and was falsely charged with presence in an illegal establishment and possession of implements of a crime. I was sent to the D.C. jail. I stayed in there fourteen days, and on the second or third day I was in there I was beaten and raped. I managed to stick my foot in an electric gate and got transferred out to a hospital."
Such environments are cruel. I believe prison should be an isolated place for the benefit of society and the convicts, like an island where you can grow and heal, both you and society. But creating these pits of horror and torments, it seems like you are creating Hell on Earth for no reason. In the end, you just end up with more crime and damaged human beings.
Kotishka
I think a part of the view in Buddha's time has to do with the social system they were living in as well. It relied much more on the wisdom (or lack thereof) of those carrying out the sentence, was the guilty willing and capable of rehabilitation or would they only continue to commit harm? Versus the rules based systems (rule of law) that most of the world operates on today. While doing much to rectify and avoid the whims and abuses of the powerful at the time, it also has its downfalls, in that we're less able to rehabilitate and use good judgement to help those who are helpable.
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Interesting how, while the Buddha accepts Angulimala and even the King too his transformation from a killer to a bhikkhu, Angulimala is still subject to the kamma of his criminal actions that inevitably lead to his gruesome death.
The Buddha says to him: "Bear with it, brahman! Bear with it! The fruit of the kamma that would have burned you in hell for many years, many hundreds of years, many thousands of years, you are now experiencing in the here-&-now!". Angulimala does not retaliate nor curse, he accepts it and thus released from samsara.
When I talk about providing sessions to prisoners, one important aspect is their acceptance of the deed they committed and the cost society has imposed on them: you murdered, you indeed did a wrong thing. But this should not become a source of eternal anguish or torment, you should ask for forgiveness and acceptance of your misdoing but also accept that the people you hurt might not forgive you and this is the result of your actions. What you do from now on is essential not only for your own well-being, but perhaps even for the well-being of others too.
Thanks for the sutta @Jason 
Kotishka
What you can truly know is what is being directly experienced in the moment. One of this is the experience of uncertainty!
