I’ve not really made progress with the digital detox today… I’ve managed to restrict my foruming to just half an hour but instead I watched a few more of Bull-Hansen’s video’s, he is interesting. Not a conspiracy theorist really but he talks about some things that give you a peek at the fire where there’s usually only a lot of smoke and mirrors.
He advocates for people to disconnect from the system, by living away from population centres and becoming self-sufficient, growing your own food and reconnecting with nature.
Certainly spending time in nature can give a new dimension to one’s spiritual practice. You could say we have been born here on this planet to learn its ways, and originally that was within nature, as a part of nature. Then we invented civilisation and started giving form to the things in our minds, until now civilisation takes over from the cradle to the grave.
Whether that means that as the South American shamans think we have lost our connection with the spirit world, or whether it might mean we no longer learn the lessons we were sent to Earth to learn, I guess we can only tell after we pass through death’s door.
Jeroen
@Jeroen said:
Maybe I should try a week’s digital detox, just to see whether I miss it.
You won't last until lunch on the first day! 
Bugger! I thought there were free jewels up for grabs 
I have found Dharma practice is gradually unlocking the magic of the mind's ability to see things in a different light...
Shoshin1
Euthanasia is legal in Switzerland. Someone we knew from there, who was in constant nerve pain, decided after visiting us to end her constant pain. She had aready decided we wer not causal ... You think she should just suffer incurable pain?
We looked after my mother at home with Alzhiemers/Dementia until a week before her death in hospital. She could not drink and was barely responsive. Two doctors recommended taking her off drips and support. Me and my siblings agreed to this. We did not have to BUT she would never have wanted to be a burden. She was very well looked after by the NHS.
So to answer your question. Suffering is optional. Not for you? OK, don't!
Job done.
You are not offensive. Did you want everyone to suffer for your preferences? Just askin'. 
lobster