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Waking Up app with Sam Harris

KeromeKerome Lovingness is the wayThe Continent Veteran

I just wanted to bring this to people’s attention. I’ve only been looking at it for a few days but it seems nice. Harris talks you through a series of guided meditations and he has a nice voice for this. For an experienced meditator it is a pleasant return to basics. There are also a series of theory talks, some of which are interviews with various spiritual teachers.

I’m not sure I want to subscribe to the premium app, $99 for a year seems like quite an investment and a bit of a money grab. But just the free content is quite refreshing in a nonsectarian kind of way.

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  • KeromeKerome Lovingness is the way The Continent Veteran

    It seems that you can request a free year’s account by email, which you can do from the website, and they grant 100% of these requests. Which is a nice option for those of us for who 100 dollars is a lot of money, which is the category I currently belong to. So I decided to take them up on it.

    The paid content includes Sam Harris interviewing a range of teachers, including Tara Brach, Mingyur Rinpoche, Jack Cornfield, Stephen Batchelor, Rupert Spira, Adyashanti, Richard Lang and others. They also have a lot of secular meditations in other traditions, such as the headless way, a stoic sequence, and a few more.

  • FoibleFullFoibleFull Canada Veteran

    Guided meditation is relaxation meditation. Not the mind-training that is Buddhist meditation. Nothing wrong with relaxing. It feels very good. But we don't gain compassion or wisdom or move towards enlightenment form guided meditations.

    In Buddhism, we are our own teacher. Others act as our coach .. WE have to do the work, and the truths of Buddhism are not grasped by listening, but from the insight that follows Mindfulness and/or Calm Abiding meditation.

    And $99 per year just to relax? There are ways to do that for free. Long baths, sex, relaxing music, exercise ... etc.

    BunksShoshin1lobster
  • KeromeKerome Lovingness is the way The Continent Veteran

    Well, I wouldn’t want to say it’s all guided meditation. I’ve done the first three intro sessions, and they seem like it’s guided. The full introductory course is 28 sessions, and there are separate programs for 20-, 40- and 60-minute sits. There’s quite a lot of content, lots to explore.

    And if you feel 100 dollars a year is too much, you don’t have to pay it. I’ve just gotten my free one year membership, I will let you know when I get a bit deeper into the thing.

    Bunks
  • lobsterlobster Veteran

    In Buddhism, we are our own teacher. Others act as our coach .. WE have to do the work, and the truths of Buddhism are not grasped by listening, but from the insight that follows Mindfulness and/or Calm Abiding meditation.

    Holy sugar puffs (right swearing/speech?) Responsibility … I knew it!

    A coach is a vehicle? So the guru circuit is not going to make us any more than parrots?

    Who or where to turn to? We have to find out who is driving in the right way? Roll on self driving …

    meanwhile … who is the just judge?

    BunksShoshin1
  • KeromeKerome Lovingness is the way The Continent Veteran

    @FoibleFull said:
    In Buddhism, we are our own teacher. Others act as our coach .. WE have to do the work, and the truths of Buddhism are not grasped by listening, but from the insight that follows Mindfulness and/or Calm Abiding meditation.

    Fair enough. But Sam Harris and his friends have been in the meditation circuit a long time, he has been with many teachers, some Buddhist and some not. In the end he decided to be an atheist, and he ended up creating this app to put a non-religious approach to meditation.

    So if you think I want to look with a fresh pair of eyes, beginners eyes, on what meditation is shorn of all the trappings, then this might be a decent opening. It might suit a secular Buddhist very well, who doesn’t immediately have a tradition to go to.

    Bunks
  • lobsterlobster Veteran

    And $99 per year just to relax? There are ways to do that for free. Long baths, sex, relaxing music, exercise ... etc.

    Indeed. Thanks for letting us know guys.

    • Chilling is the new way?
    • Relax … then dharma
    • Rug. Pull. Fall. Sit

    Think the ideal is to combine all the suggested techniques and then … choice … buy a $99 sangha

  • KeromeKerome Lovingness is the way The Continent Veteran

    If you DONT WANT TO PAY, it is FREE

    BunksDairyLama
  • lobsterlobster Veteran

    Free is still too much. I think any cult/circuit guru needs to consider paying at least $99 to the ignorant. I might be tempted …

    Normal exchange is now returned …

    Kerome
  • DavidDavid A human residing in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Ancestral territory of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Huron-Wendat, Mississauga and Neutral First Nations Veteran

    If I was so inclined, I would have to know what he will do with the money. Will it go to feeding monks or Sangha building?

  • personperson Don't believe everything you think the liminal space Veteran
    edited July 22

    @David said:
    If I was so inclined, I would have to know what he will do with the money. Will it go to feeding monks or Sangha building?

    I know Sam in his discussions on ethics has made the decision to give a fair bit of his wealth away, not sure exactly how much. I pulled this from the actual, nonpartisan wikipedia page on Sam.

    David
  • ScottPenScottPen Maryland Veteran

    I was a subscriber for a little while. He has developed his own curriculum for what he considers to be the most effective approach to the practice. I don't typically like guided meditations and I found that to be the same here.
    It's inspired by Buddhist thought but isn't Buddhist in nature. Anyone can get a free year subscription, totally free of charge, no questions asked because Sam "doesn't want money being the reason" why a person wouldn't choose to participate.

    lobsterKeromeDairyLama
  • KeromeKerome Lovingness is the way The Continent Veteran

    @ScottPen said:
    I was a subscriber for a little while. He has developed his own curriculum for what he considers to be the most effective approach to the practice. I don't typically like guided meditations and I found that to be the same here.
    It's inspired by Buddhist thought but isn't Buddhist in nature.

    Yes, after 8 days of theory and practice it’s becoming a little clearer what the whole thing includes. It borrows heavily from mindfulness and the secular mindfulness techniques, but also includes some things from Buddhist directions. In the theory Sam says “mindfulness doesn’t have to be practiced in silence, there is nothing wrong with guided meditation from a mindfulness perspective” as a justification for not having an entirely silent sitting practice.

    I’m finding the guided meditation practice to be not as bad as it usually is, because it just includes very sparse guidance. The meditations are about 10 minutes long, and they contain long sections of silence, with the ‘guidance’ varying between actual guidance (“if you get distracted, return to focus on the breath”) and hints (“when a thought arises, try to follow that thought to its origin”).

    So as you sit, these short ten-minute sessions guide you through a series of techniques. The theory includes answering questions such as “what is progress for a meditator” or “how to cope with boredom”.

    Bunks
  • KeromeKerome Lovingness is the way The Continent Veteran

    One of the things I listened to today was a podcast with Frank Ostaseski as guest. Very interesting guy, he founded the San Francisco Zen Hospice and is very much about what death can teach us about living well.

    https://fiveinvitations.com/

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