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So HUNGRY to NOT CRAVE

Ren_in_blackRen_in_black Georgia Veteran

Shameless solidarity grab here. :p Does anybody else get fired up thinking about the equanimity that is possible in an imagined future on the Buddhist path?

I guess Christmas is an appropriate time to consider this, because it's not unlike waiting for Christmas morning. As a child I was so ready to be out of school and to get gifts. There was an excitement with a little bit of frustration. Like, I CAN'T WAIT.

The irony of feeling similarly about Buddhist practice is not lost on me. B)

KotishkaJeroenVastmindShoshin1

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  • Shoshin1Shoshin1 Sentient Being Oceania Veteran

    Thus have I heard...

    Om Mani Padme Hung ....The Jewel is (already) in the Lotus

    What you crave for, you already have. it's your craving which is keeping you from it.

    Don't have expectations, just practice, forget about trying to achieve something and things will eventually fall into place....

    The Dalai Lama once said "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion."

    That's the weird and wonderful Dharma for ya...

    Ren_in_blacklobster
  • Ren_in_blackRen_in_black Georgia Veteran

    @Shoshin1 said:
    Don't have expectations, just practice, forget about trying to achieve something and things will eventually fall into place....

    Years ago, one of the first times I received meditation instruction at a Zen center, the instructor said gently before we started that "you're not trying to achieve anything." I thought it was good advice but also out of left field, since we had just met and she didn't know my motivations.

    But of course she did know, even if I didn't yet.

    marcitkolobsterShoshin1
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    Does anybody else get fired up thinking about the equanimity that is possible in an imagined future on the Buddhist path?

    Strangely. Once we no longer crave the results. We practice more or tread the path more insightfully and mindfully. I can not think of anything which is not practice.

    If we feel our equanimity could be greater, we will never be satisfied. It is a bit like opening a Christmas present from the inside... and finding the world is the present...

    Ren_in_blackperson
  • Ren_in_blackRen_in_black Georgia Veteran

    @lobster said:
    It is a bit like opening a Christmas present from the inside... and finding the world is the present...

    Nice image!

    lobster
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    But of course she did know, even if I didn't yet.

    Imagine someone has Nothing to offer. We of course want something. So we give them an impossible task.
    ... And the funny thing is they are up to the task until we stop taking and start giving
    Nothing. =)

    Ren_in_black
  • Ren_in_blackRen_in_black Georgia Veteran

    @lobster said:
    Imagine someone has Nothing to offer. We of course want something. So we give them an impossible task.
    ... And the funny thing is they are up to the task until we stop taking and start giving
    Nothing. =)

    The replies here have made me realize that the impulse behind my post is about what I WANT. Which is similar to how Christmas was a child. ;)

    If I shift into what I might be able give (or at least, shift away from the focus on my Self), the "problem" drifts away.

    lobster
  • JeroenJeroen Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter Netherlands Veteran

    Basically you are craving the sensation of not-craving.

    Another mode to appreciate is relaxing. Thich Nhat Hanh recommended “three deep conscious breaths” in a teaching I saw not long ago, to shift into relaxed spaciousness.

    Ren_in_black
  • Shoshin1Shoshin1 Sentient Being Oceania Veteran

    "You're desiring not to desire"

    lobsterRen_in_black
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    Here is a long interview which talks about the giving.

    Given to the Buddhist Society (started by Father Christmas Humphreys)
    by Lama Yeshe, one of my Tantric meditation teachers.

    "Crave or crave not, there is only try'" as Master Yoda might say...

    Ren_in_black
  • Ren_in_blackRen_in_black Georgia Veteran

    @Shoshin1 said:
    "You're desiring not to desire"

    Love hearing from Alan Watts.

    @lobster said:
    Here is a long interview which talks about the giving.

    This will take me a while to get through but I plan to listen to it all. Thanks!

  • JeroenJeroen Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter Netherlands Veteran

    For me, the biggest lesson from Buddhism was to always be ready to let go. The Venerable Ajahn Chah called this ‘the mind of letting go’. It is not about renouncing or forcefully pushing things away, but instead learning to just let things drop away when they are ready.

    You will find that for example the habit of collecting, or the desire for alcohol, slowly start to vanish as you take in more solitude and it becomes clear to you that life without cravings is more peaceful and joyous. Then when these old habits begin to become less, just let them fall away.

    Then, as time passes, you find yourself with less and less craving, fewer habits.

    Ren_in_blacklobster
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