Hey! Feels like I’ve been away forever and I got a mention today. Hope you’re all doing well?
Bunks
I am 95% sure that in one of his podcasts, Ajahn Sonna, abott of a Canadian Theravada Forrest Monastery, answers this very question and says the Buddha does not consider there is any 'unseen' unconcious beyond the concious workings od the mind (thoughts) and heart (feelings).
Even so, as @Shoshin1 has so eloquently stated, the Buddha clearly does take into account our various difficult-to-see conditionings, which we might be unaware of.
So maybe the difference is that western psychology posits a can-never-unearth unconcious, while the Buddha posits a can-unearth but with difficulty, practice and training unconconcious.
But I very well might be wrong on both counts.
You might enjoy this discussion from five years ago when I was reading In the Buddha’s Words by Bhikkhu Bodhi. I enjoyed the book very much, next to Buddhist Scriptures by Edward Conze it was my favourite sutra anthology.
https://newbuddhist.com/discussion/comment/553301#Comment_553301
Jeroen
I am taking my Buddhism more seriously as of late. It is clear to me I must make determined and right efforts. Apply various 'medicines' and remedies, take responsibily and quit complaining. Changing the inputs will change the outputs, as I know for sure from a previous determined phase.
Strictly 'Buddhist' I am:
Slowly and contemplatively reading 'In the Buddhas Words' by Bhikhu Boddhi. It is a Pali canon sutta structured compilation with contextual introductions to chapters. Very good.
Listening to Ajahn Sonna. I resonate a lot and find a lot of benefit.
Restarted meditating. Some samatha, some loving kindness, some contemplation.
Trying to uphold and practice sila in a practical way.
I'm also doing and trying to habitualise a few other 'supporting' practices and dehabitualise a few negative behaviors but will write above those another day to keep this shorter.
Already feeling better: calmer, more grounded, more optimistic... so far so very good.
Did the Buddha, in his own terms, ever talk about the unconscious ?
Bearing in mind (pun intended) that the term “unconscious” is a modern psychological idea, one could say yes, the Buddha did speak about what we would now call the unconscious, because his understanding of the mind included every layer of mental activity, from what we’re clearly aware of to what lies deeply conditioned and unseen.
He may not have used the word “unconscious,” but he spoke of latent tendencies (anusaya) that stay hidden until they are stirred, mental formations (saṅkhāra) that shape how we think and act without our awareness, and ignorance (avijjā) as the root that keeps these patterns alive. In this way, the Buddha recognised both the seen and unseen workings of the mind, showing that liberation comes through understanding the whole of it, not just the surface.
Shoshin1
@lobster said:
g?Is your mind padlocked maybe rather than open?
The mind set that I aim for is a sort of open skepticism. So rather than a padlock I'd say I have a filter that needs to be gotten past, which is opposed to an open sieve that lets in everything.
So to be more specific, I have a perspective but am willing to look at things differently. To then change my mind I'd want evidence and compelling arguments rather than a claim or statement. Just acknowledging or understanding that other perspectives exist doesn't mean I adopt them wholeheartedly, often its more like there are bits and pieces that expand my view or move me a bit one way or another. Maybe a simpler way to state it would be that listening and understanding isn't the same as agreeing or believing.
I feel like in the past I've been too open and believed in all kinds of stuff that later on turned out to be false.
person
@marcitko said:
I've bought subscriptions to all the major movie-providers but rarely seem to be able to find anything to watch among the modern movies. I'm not quite sure what it's about but they somehow just don't grab my attention or peek my interest. So, I often revert to rewatching old favourites. Sounding like a Boomer, at 39!
So, if you’re now 39, that would mean you were born in 1986, and are a Millennial? Somehow I thought you might be a little older.
But if you like good movies, try ‘1917’, directed by Sam Mendes, which came out in 2019. Incredible feat of cinematography in making it look like the whole film was shot in one giant, over-the-shoulder take. It really places you in the middle of the First World War. It was the most recent movie which made me say ‘wow’.
Jeroen
@person said:
Early on as I was forming my views I came to a feeling that trying to find a place of balance in life was bound to fail and liberation is the solution. I still believe that ultimately, but I couldn't make the leap and decided on a worldly life where the interplay and balance of Yin and Yang is the way of worldly things.
When I am reflecting on things of this nature, what I am currently reminded of is that there is only ‘the eternal now’. There is no long ago, there is no tomorrow, there is only ever the now…
Just that if there is a leap to be made, and you haven’t made it yet, it is still there in the now, the moment never passes.
Jeroen
I found this article
https://daringfireball.net/2025/04/try_switching_to_kagi
Really interesting, not only for its talk about how Kagi is a better form of internet search, but also why Google and DuckDuckGo do not work well anymore. Spoiler, it has to do with money. Kagi is a subscription based search engine, so makes no money off ads or merchandise sales, which is why it can afford to produce better search results.
Jeroen