I came across this quote by Ram Dass this morning, and it set me to thinking…
“The spiritual journey is individual, highly personal. It can't be organized or regulated. It isn't true that everyone should follow one path. Listen to your own truth.”
― Ram Dass
It seems true to me that the path is highly personal. Certainly it has meant for me that something like a Buddhist monk’s life hasn’t been explored by me. There was a point where I considered it, about eight years ago, but then I read Stephen Batchelor’s Confessions of a Buddhist Atheist and found that he had saved me from many years of living in that way.
So if I were to further consider the Ram Dass quote, and “listen to my own truth”, what has dedicating my time to spirituality meant to me and what has it brought me? And how to continue from here?
First, the methods I have followed to date:
For me, it has resulted in just a few guidelines which I try to apply constantly…
I have gone through a purification of the body and the spirit, but whether this has resulted in me being better off is something I’m not certain of. I have noticed that a long standing tingle in my body has vanished over the last few days. This has meant a kind of sea change in what I perceive of my body… I had always associated that tingle with a sort of energy. Not sure what this means, but it’s different.
U.G. says that there is no breakthrough which one can work towards, that it all happens automatically. So in that way, a spiritual journey doesn’t necessarily mean ‘doing’ things like retreats or courses, it may mean that ‘doing’ as such is not necessary. Still I like to share insights, helping inspire people is a way of improving the world.
The reading and writing of spiritual literature sets my mind to work in a certain way, perhaps it is so that that state of mind is something that I associate with spirituality.
What does “living a spiritual life” mean to you?
Jeroen
I used to play free online poker back when it really boomed in popularity. I think the thing that it taught me the most was how to think probabilistically and long term. What I didn't like about it was the way I'd start enjoying beating or tricking other people.
As far as an income. I'm self employed and there is a feast or famine aspect to it, but I live below my means and I feel that even if things slow down there will be enough work to get by, there isn't the fear of losing my job and having no income.
Regarding the social anxiety. It is an issue when you're isolated, it reinforces the anxiety, it tells the brain that it is indeed dangerous to interact with people and isolation equals safety. The only real way to get better is through at first small, but increasing social engagement.
person
*** In this post I will be talking about poker. I do not recommend that anyone play poker, especially from a Buddhist perspective. Feel free to not read this post, especially if you have addiction problems in general or gambling problems in particular.
I've been occasionally following along with this thread but did not think I had anything to contribute since I did not believe I play games, except on occasion. However, I just realized I made a game into a livelihood, talking about a blind-spot! I also wrote in my journal thread that I would open the topic of my poker-playing at some point, so here goes.
For the last a bit over 5 years I've been playing online poker and learning about good strategies for winning players, which I've been. I started as an "amateur" playing for peanut-stakes and as my knowledge increased moved up in stakes to where these days I can support myself fully by playing a few hours a day and watching training videos for in average another hour. My main source of income for the last 2.5 years has been poker (with a stint with working too).
I've always been profitable so there is no element of losing money. I only paid in 50$ and grew my bankroll from winnings. At least, that's something good. I am not rich, currently I can barely sustain myself, but I can. To give you some idea: when I was very focused on poker about 2 years ago and the games were good because of Covid, I made around 3 average salaries, while now when it's less in focus, and the games are tougher, I make around an average salary. Keep in mind that these are averages, with poker you do not "get a paycheck".
For those less knowledgeable about poker, a few points I believe are important:
The pros of what poker has given me:
The negatives:
I find that I excel and feel secure in "closed-systems" - such as games - which are not open-ended. With poker, we can learn the correct strategy, the goals are known, there are a limited number of rules. With jobs - and life in general - everything is much more unclear, even the goals are often unknown, there are an infinite number of (job-related, social, technological...) rules, some of which we know, some of which we don't - so I feel less secure and more anxious.
The short and to-the point version of my conclusion today is:
I will post more another day. Feel free to comment. Thanks for reading.
“We do not describe the world we see, we see the world we can describe.”
— René Descartes
Jeffrey
Just a thought....
Thoughts are charmers (both the pleasant and destructive ones) our minds can be easily charmed by them... and it's force of habit of this sense of self to think it is the thinker behind the thought, when in fact the thought itself is the thinker and the unaware sense of self more often than not is just taken for an emotional rollercoaster ride ..
E(nergy in) Motion
Awareness is fundamentally non-conceptual before thinking splits experience into subject and object...It is empty and so can contain everything including thought...It is boundless...And amazingly it is intrinsically knowing
One could say ....Awareness is in the habit of finding the thoughts thoughts faults...
Shoshin1
One of our inclinations is to clamp or tighten around our pain. Relaxing into it is a constant unfolding.
Metta to all our efforts … [applause becomes gently more]
lobster
I think you’re in part right @lobster Apple do like to charge more for their products than strictly necessary. Look at RAM and storage upgrade prices on M-series Macs, it can easily add 400-600 euros to the price of a new machine to bring it up to spec, and these aren’t upgradeable after buying so they have you by the short and curlies. Or the Studio Display, 1500 euros for a monitor is beyond excessive when the same display panel alone can be had from LG for 800.
But then, a new M2 Mac Mini only costs 700 euros which is approaching acceptable, if you want a Mac they don’t have to cost the earth. And MacOS is in my eyes undeniably better than Windows or Linux. I haven’t had to spend a single day on tech-related faffing about with my new M1 iMac, it’s been smooth sailing all the way, everything just works.
And that is kind of the key to the Apple experience, it’s expensive but it all works smoothly and without complaint. If you don’t want things like my dad’s Windows mice suddenly started hanging because of an auto-update to his USB drivers on his motherboard…
Jeroen
Nothing is good or bad, but thinking makes it so...
-Bill Shakespeare-
Shoshin1
@IdleChater said:
@Bunks said:
Being able to chat in real time with monastics
How do you know they're monastics?
Because I know them in person from the monastery I stay at
Bunks