There is the question of getting the mind to agree — if your mind is busy and full of urgent questions, you can’t expect your observation of the garden to last without interruption. That is where mindfulness and meditation come in, to accustom the mind to being calm. Once you have accomplished this and you can fall into meditation with ease, then enjoying the garden becomes easier.
Jeroen
Zen is good for nothing....reminds me of
One of the older (oft-repeated) stories of a Zen abbot's answer when giving a tour of his monastery to an important governing official who asked when the monks meditate in the meditation hall. The Zen master's answer was "Whenever they have nothing better to do".
The karmic life consequences that arise from a meditator choosing to not meditate, are often more profoundly notable, than the no-thing readily found everywhere, when one is routinely meditating.
Here, Zen is simply good for no-thing.
how
@Jeroen said:
Are you suggesting we make an enlightenment detector which works on data from a specially-trained cadre of mindfull observers? Sort of like a black hole detector which works on data from stars. For detecting enlightened ones at long distances.
This is a pretty funny visual @Jeroen . I'm imagining a machine you stick your finger in and it tells you if you're enlightened or not with a red or green indicator.
Not trying to make the point for a detector so much as express an appreciation for many different perspectives working together. Like in seeking to find what is unable to be comprehended or expressed, we can look for the signs in the things we can comprehend and express. Since we are all on different places along the path, it helps to have multiple interpretations from various perspectives pointing in the same direction. Things such as the various schools and teachers, 10 ox herding pictures, Heart Sutra, koans, etc.
Just like the Buddha indicating which of his followers were strongest in certain forms of meditation or certain components of the 8FP and if I recall correctly, would direct individuals with specific challenges to specific practitioners since those practitioners saw from a particular perspective. Or how he taught variations of gradual training multiple times in slightly different ways across many Suttas.
@FleaMarket said:
But what happens when there is no question where one is expected? How do you find the question to be asked when one hasn't arisen?
No question, no answer. Done.
lobster
I believe I read somewhere a long time ago that when finding and studying black holes, scientists have a tricky time because they are not findable directly as nothing yet measurable can escape the event horizon. This causes them to be invisible against the backdrop of the blackness of space.
One of the techniques used to locate them is to view the surroundings for clues and distortions indicating a direction and triangulate to the emptiness they all point toward.
Since the black hole itself cannot be viewed straight on, the perspectives of the stuff around it are needed to guide the scientists.
Apparently this works because each thing they observe points from its own unique perspective to the same general location of emptiness. The more unique perspectives combined, the more accurate the map of the black hole's location.
Each unique perspective provides more of the missing data, more clues, a stronger picture which would be less without them.
It seems in living our own unique perspectives, we collectively become an extension of that which we indicate toward to any who look close enough to find.
Provisional teachings would be subject to change and could vary from perspective to perspective like what "enlightenment" is while definitive teachings would be the fundamentals like the 4NTs.
So I think you got it.
12 years ago I started this thread.
Yesterday I met with my eldest estranged daughter for the first time in years. She's lovely inside and out. Caring, warm-hearted; just lovely. It's a complex situation but she's moved from Northern Ireland to Brighton (about three hours drive from me).
The freedom from her mum has allowed her to reach out to me.
I sent a message to her sister, my youngest, today. She'll be more difficult and she still lives with her mum, though my eldest tells me her mum has softened her attitude towards me; so we'll see how that goes.
The youngest daughter featured in Cosmopolitan magazine as one of the UK's top 30 most swiped right people on Tinder. Hahaha.
I just thought after a decade an update was long overdue. 
She's the one on the right.

Tosh
When talking of ‘knowledge’, people often mean information. Many 'teachers' are just providing information. They are the equivalent of a talking book, an entry on wikipedia, a youtube video, a web page.
However I feel @Lionduck is using 'knowledge' to mean Gnosis/experiential understanding/real knowing?
This is like faith/trust/confidence in the veracity/truth of dharma information.
lobster